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Riffsbar Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
I have a iMac PowerPC G3, 400Mhz, 192Mb RAM, OSX 10.0 & OS9.1

Just wonering what version of LOGIC I can run on it or are there any upgrades available to make it run the latest LOGIC?

Ta

Andy

iMac, PowerPC G3, 400Mhz, 192Mb RAM, OSX 10.0 & OS9.1
  • Bee Jay Level 6 Level 6 (10,895 points)
    You'll need Tiger to run the latest version of Logic - whether Tiger will run on your machine I have no idea - I suspect not.

    But.. if you're willing to spend a thousand bucks to run Logic, you should be willing to upgrade your machine as well. Running Logic on a machine worth, what $100 (or whatever) doesn't make much sense to me...
  • iDontKare Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    Logic can only run on a G4 or higher computer it wont run on your G3

    take care

    Ian

    http://www.relentlessdancemusic.com
  • Riffsbar Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Thanks for that, someone gave me the G3 and knowing nothing about Macs...or LOGIC...I needed to ask the question

    This Mac forum is superb, it's a big help in swaying me away from PC's

    Cheers

    Andy
  • tele_player Level 5 Level 5 (5,380 points)
    If you're swayed by a G3 and this forum, you'll be shocked and awed by any current Mac. The slowest CoreDuo or Core2Duo Mac is about ten times more capable than a 400Mhz G3.
  • Riffsbar Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Sounds good but being on a tight budget what would you recommend as a minimum requirement? Also is a laptop recommended or not?
    I'm looking to do live band recordings mainly, max 16 tracks.
    Thanks
  • Rohan Stevenson1 Level 4 Level 4 (3,175 points)
    mate you can get away with all sorts of stuff if you are canny.

    you should run logic 6 in OS9 on your iMac if you can get a hold of it.

    you will need an external (fast) hard drive.

    400 Mhz is pretty slow so don't expect to be able to work with more than a couple of plug-ins, apart from your esx (which you should be able to get up to the low teens). that might be ok if you have outboard gear. i know plenty of guys using steam powered computers making great great music, but they are generally PT rigs with outboard DSP. also they are towers which allows for PCI expansion.

    if you are recording live, laptops are great of course. you can use portable HDs (5400rpm) powered off the laptops firewire bus for up to 16 tracks at 44.1/24, probably more. but of course, you are going to need an audio interface to make that happen, and the most practical and economic is going to be a firewire interface.

    you will need to research your F/W interface with OS9, or if you have a fast enough mac laptop OS X. OS 9 is considerably faster than OS X, but it is not as robust. keep your OS 9 really lean, only install what you absolutely need and you should be OK.

    you can do this....it doesn't seem that long ago i was producing pretty acceptable music on a G3 300 Mhz, but expect a lot of fiddly troubleshooting.

    cheap and cheerful: pros....

    - great way to get your hands dirty and start to really understand computers and macs..
    - can get great results for little outlay...

    cons...

    - fiddly and time consuming
    - takes time away from making music
    - unsupported software and hardware

    buying 2nd generation gear is generally the best balance between cost at ease of use. its not so old that it is not unsupported, but its not so new that you are effectively beta-testing and paying a premium.
  • Donald Hoeber Level 4 Level 4 (2,415 points)
    last year I had an iBook 14" G3 900 mhz that I put Logic 7.1.1 on with OSX 10.3.9. I needed to record 8 tracks for a live band and it worked fine. I didn't do the mixing on it though, just the live tracking.
  • iDontKare Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    last year I had an iBook 14" G3 900 mhz that I put Logic
    7.1.1 on with OSX 10.3.9. I needed to record 8 tracks for
    a live band and it worked fine. I didn't do the mixing on
    it though, just the live tracking.


    HAHA How? Are you telling the truth?


    Logic Pro 7 Requirements:
    Macintosh computer with Power PC G4 or faster processor (G5 or dual G4 processors recommended) and 512MB of RAM; Logic node applications require Power PC G5 and Gigabit Ethernet connectivity


    Ian Buzz
    http://www.relentlessdancemusic.com/

    PowerMac G5   Mac OS X (10.4.8)  
  • Rohan Stevenson1 Level 4 Level 4 (3,175 points)
    Logic Pro 7 Requirements:
    Macintosh computer with Power PC G4 or faster processor (G5 or dual G4 processors recommended) and 512MB of RAM; Logic node applications require Power PC G5 and Gigabit Ethernet connectivity


    yeah he's telling the truth. G3's are PPC too and logic is optimized. you can run nodes over 10/100 ethernet rather than the recommended gigabit, but the full potential is seriously curtailed.

    eg RAM, OS X uses virtual RAM all the time. if you were to throw a handful of VI's and CPU demanding plug-ins into the mix, of course a G3 would choke. if all you do is track audio, well you could do that on a computer with half that power.

    this is the thing some of us oldies cut our teeth on the manure producing steam powered calculators. i have a mate who uses a 700 Mhz single processor G4 still with OS 9 with a PTs rig and its solid as a rock, runs tons of plug-ins and he has absolutely no reason to upgrade and makes fantastic commercial records.

    ask dave robinson, a highly experienced pro, what he uses and how uses it. as i said earlier, it wasn't so long ago i was working professionally on an old biege G3 300, mixing down orchestral music for TV.

    now if you were thinking about doing serious heavy duty techno....you would want the most horses you could possibly find. speaking of horses - they're for courses.

    BTW mate - not bagging you here - glad of an opportunity to express on a subject i feel something about.
  • Donald Hoeber Level 4 Level 4 (2,415 points)
    yes it worked, but as I said I only did tracking, if I tried to put any fx for mix down there was no way it could handle that
  • wordwar Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
    i tried a lot of old computers, the slowest was a pmac g4 400 agp, it runs very nice under tiger but you can just use some plugins, the exs is okay you can load circa 8 midi tracks. if you freeze a lot theres a lot possible but not comfortable.
    hope this helped.
  • ftlbaby Level 1 Level 1 (40 points)
    I use Logic on a Powerbook G3 (Firewire) 500Mhz 768MB 7200PM for 2496 stereo playback with inspector xl fft analyzer on the output bus.
  • Phillip K Level 3 Level 3 (570 points)
    last year I had an iBook 14" G3 900 mhz that I put
    Logic 7.1.1 on with OSX 10.3.9. I needed to record
    8 tracks for a live band and it worked fine. I didn't
    do the mixing on it though, just the live tracking.


    I am not saying your wrong I just wonder why

    1. Apple would sell a 900Mhz G3 after offering a G4
    Powerbook running at 550Mhz (Titanium) the one I own.

    2. If it was before the PB G4 Titanium why I did not see it
    since it might actually be faster than the 550 Mhz G4.
  • Donald Hoeber Level 4 Level 4 (2,415 points)
    I am not saying your wrong I just wonder why

    1. Apple would sell a 900Mhz G3 after offering a G4
    Powerbook running at 550Mhz (Titanium) the one I
    own.

    2. If it was before the PB G4 Titanium why I did not
    see it
    since it might actually be faster than the 550
    Mhz G4.


    UH.... i don't know

    the 900 mhz G3 came out on early 2003. here are the specs if you are interested. http://support.apple.com/specs/ibook/iBookEarly2003.html

    I sold the G3 on ebay 6 months back and now I have a 1.4 Ghz 14" iBook G4 that can handle logic just fine for mobile recording projects. you can get these things pretty cheap on ebay. here are the specs for this one. http://support.apple.com/specs/ibook/iBookG4_Mid2005.html
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