iSync vs Palm Desktop--can't I sync with both?

iSync requires me to disable the conduits that allow syncing with Palm Desktop. I have an old Palm m515 and am using the latest hotsync and desktop versions. I would like to be able to have the Palm sync with both iSync and Palm Desktop but can't figure a way. Right now it seems it's one or the other.
Anyone have any advice?

eMac 1.25 gHz, Mac OS X (10.4.9), 768 MB RAM, 40 GB internal drive, 160 GB firewire external drive

Posted on Mar 18, 2007 2:46 PM

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Mar 18, 2007 4:58 PM in response to bob mandel

You'll have to give up the idea of synchronizing with both environments. The underlying issue is that you want to violate the 'rule of conduits:' you cannot simultaneously synchronize the same data type with more than one conduit.

It is possible to do this only if you use the Missing Sync for Palm OS, which allows you to create separate conduit 'sets' into which you can place the otherwise conflicting conduits, then switch sets with a drop-down menu. You could do so using it to place the Palm Desktop and other conduits which do not conflict with them in one set, and place the iSync Palm Conduit and other conduits which do not conflict with it—and which can include any conduits other than the conflicting Palm conduits—in another. Or, you could toss iSync and the iSync Palm Conduit completely and use the Mark/Space Contacts, Events and Tasks conduits provided with that package.

You will never gain the substantial benefits of an advanced Palm device—a handheld organizer of smartphone running Palm OS 5.4 or later—until you ditch the m515. Clearly the Mark/Space conduits do a far better job than the iSync Palm Conduit does, but you need an advanced device to synchronize contact photographs, URL and IM identifier data, interact with iCal categories and Palm calendar colors, write back from your Palm device to any calendar which is not designated read-only on your computer, and so on.

In addition, the Palm Desktop is not now—and never will be—Sync Services compliant, so your data changes made in the Palm Desktop will not propagate to other sync clients, except in a limited and clumsy fashion. The Palm Desktop is for all intents and purposes an orphaned or abandoned product, and Palm is made it clear that it will not develop a Sync Services compatible release for future versions of OS X, and may not even offer maintenance releases beyond Mac OS X 10.4.9, so the sooner you walk away from it, the better of you'll be.

More information about the Missing Sync for Palm OS is available here:

http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos.php

Mar 18, 2007 10:19 PM in response to Michael Lafferty

Thanks for the advice.
Looks like the Palm Desktop is headed toward a dead end, and my trusty old Palm 515 is, well, old.
I had hoped to avoid buying a replacement Palm until it died.
My main uses are the calendar and address functions. I can't see the need for pics, calendar colors, iTunes, etc.
Maybe the Missing Sync is the way to go if I'm going to hang on to the Palm 515.

Mar 30, 2007 3:57 PM in response to Michael Lafferty

Hi, I've got another m515 issue to post.

1) installed PalmDesktop 4.2.1 rev A
2) my isync is not enabled for PalmOS devices
3) launch PalmDesktop and push the HotSync button on my m515 cradle (try to do the first synchronization using non-iSync conduits)
4) nothing happens on my MBP; the m515 stays idle for minutes then aborts the sync operation
5) I checked if my handheld & USB cradle connection works fine: using XP Home on a different PC (with the original CD PalmDesktop version intalled) everything goes ok. 😟

any suggestion?

thanks in advance

Daniele, Italy




MacBook Pro 15" Intel Core Duo 2.16 GHz 1GB Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Mar 30, 2007 11:07 PM in response to Michael Lafferty

It's considered far better form to post your issue
separately, rather than add it to this thread.


Sorry for the post issue, I'm not an enhanced user. I've just add the same post separately under the iSync discussion forum.

That said, the first question is: what does your
HotSync long say about these events.

HotSync log is empty. No events seem to be registered.

And, the next:
have you ever enabled iSync to synchronize any Palm
OS device on this specific Macintosh?

I've enabled iSync to synchronize the m515 device, but I immediately remove the item because I have read in the PalmOS Support page that you have to synhcronize with HotSync first.

In fact my needs is only to keep my iCal events and Address Book synchronized on old m515 using iSync



MacBook Pro 15" Intel Core Duo 2.16 GHz 1GB Mac OS X (10.4.9)

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