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Q: Powerbook G3 Display Issue

Dear Forum Mac Guru's,

I know this has been asked a few times before but I thought all the comments I've read so far have not been quite my situation. So here I go...

I was wondering if you are able to help
diagnose a problem I am having with my Pismo Powerbook?

The LCD still has a good crisp colour to it with no dead pixels or dim
spots or bright spots. That is until things start to go wrong. If I leave
the powerbook off and turn it back on again the LCD is fine for a while.
Then it will start to flicker with horizontal white lines in random places
every time. The image that was last on the display freezes and eventually
the flikering lines will become solid and the white will wash away any
image that had previously been there. eventually this white will go a dull
grey colour. This will all happen very quickly. In a matter of about 30
seconds.

Initially it was only intermitant and would go away by pressing the back
of the screen or pushing down on the screen (down dosen't help all that often). This however rarely helps these days.

I initially thought it was the Inverter board but then came to the
conclusion it might be the display cable. After replacing the display
cable (making sure it was the same brand screen) it still started to
flicker and the same things happens.

I have been running an external display for the past year with this problem and the external display runs without an issue. When the laptop display gose blank the external display runs perfectly.

I did a number of test on the computer when the display gose funny. I tried to push pod and poke the main body of the computer but this has no affect on the problem at all. The backlight is not an issue, it remains on. The screen has a number of vertical lines that appear once its grey (these may be there straight away but don't become apparent until the screen is greyish). I have leff the screen in the greyish state for a while and generally a couple of white lines will remain and randomly flicker every now and again. The screen in this state sometimes seems to dim in light intensity, this comes in and out. If the machine has been off for a little while (off not sleep) then the screen generally will last alot longer before going to the bad state. Moving the screen from almost closed to almost open the screen can go to the faded state at any position but will generally change as the screen is moved. The screen is best I feel when the screen is in the full extension open. When the screen dims (properly whilst saving power) it dims correctly but just makes the greyish look darker. If i touch the screen in the right spot it will spring back to life and be as crisp as it ever was. It also seems to have a darker rectangle in the centre of the greyish area. I think that is all?

Other than this problem recently the computers battery died and has been replaced and the cd/dvd drive has been replced. The screen problem was happening before these became and issue though.

Would you have any ideas? Also any suggestions on parts to fix it with?

Thanks in Advance, Tre.

Pismo, Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Posted on Mar 20, 2007 7:02 AM

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  • by Texas Mac Man,

    Texas Mac Man Texas Mac Man Mar 20, 2007 10:00 AM in response to the_tredog
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    Mar 20, 2007 10:00 AM in response to the_tredog
    tredog, welcome to Apple Discussions.

    I have a Pismo like yours running Tiger, however, I don't have a solution to your problem. This forum is for G3s older than yours.

    Suggest you repost your question in the PowerBook G3 forum @ http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1066 You are more likely to get an answer.

     Cheers, Tom
  • by jpl,

    jpl jpl Mar 20, 2007 12:36 PM in response to the_tredog
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    Mar 20, 2007 12:36 PM in response to the_tredog
    Tre,

    From your description, I would have to say you have a bad display for these reasons:

    - The external monitor runs fine; this should exclude a problem with the logic board, i.e. VideoRAM and graphics card.

    - You have replaced the video data ribbon cable with no improvement. If the cable were bad, you should see the problem immediately.

    - Both heat and pressure have an affect on the display. Since I am unfamiliar with the construction of an LCD panel, I cannot describe what may be happening. However, if just touching it in the right spot eliminates all problems temporarily, something is breaking down with heat.
  • by Alex Dawson,

    Alex Dawson Alex Dawson Mar 21, 2007 7:21 PM in response to the_tredog
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    Mar 21, 2007 7:21 PM in response to the_tredog
    Since you seem brave enough to replace the LVDS data cable, I would suggest that replacing the LCD panel is the next step to take.
  • by the_tredog,

    the_tredog the_tredog Mar 21, 2007 7:25 PM in response to the_tredog
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    Mar 21, 2007 7:25 PM in response to the_tredog
    In terms of heat I'm not sure.

    It isn't only one spot that you can push to get it to come back. I have to manipulate the screen carefully in a number of different combinations. Also if the screen brightness is down the and screen fully open with an external monitor on the screen can sometimes clear up even after 4 hours plus of use. If I then move the screen up it will take a few minutes to go bad again. Even if the brightness is left down.

    I actually have a spare screen from an old 400mhz model which is identical brand. Its just not in as good condition and has to bright spots in the corners and one dull area middle bottom. Its just not in as good nic as the current one when its working. Is there a way to 'tighten' the LCD in case its a pressure problem or is still a heat issue?

    Many Thanks, Tre.