Echo in imported video

I'm in the process of archiving my old Videos to harddrive. Some of the videos are 6 years old, were recorded on different Camcorders, edited on a PC (ULead MediaStudio) and written back to tape.

Now when I import the videos to iMove, when I after importing the video play them back (in iMovie or after converting to H26 4 mov) I hear some kind of echo in the audio.

I'm using an Intel iMac 20" with 2GB of Memory and record to the internal harddrive and I have the latest versions of MacOS, iMovie and Quicktime. I have 70GB free diskspace - So I guess the machine config should not be the problem.

Did anybody experience similar problems, what could it be?

Is it because of the tapes were written with an older Camcorder (on Windows) or did the tapes go bad (but when playing the video in the Camcorder they sound ok) or is the Camcorder broken (it's a 1year old Canon ZR100) ?

thanks for any advice
-Uwe

20'' iMac (Intel), Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on Mar 24, 2007 7:33 AM

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Mar 25, 2007 7:39 AM in response to Lennart Thelander

How about:
Import the tape, saving the project, quit iMovie and
THEN turn off the camera.


No difference

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thanks - this is very helpful


thanks again for all your help. Any further tests have to wait now 2 weeks since I will go on a 2 week trip to Europe. Once back I will make sure my system is well maintained (as described in the article above) and try again.

Mar 25, 2007 8:43 AM in response to Uwe_Meier

Trying to think through an answer for this problem and this is what I've learned:
It's not the file on the tape.
It's not a problem with Windows -> software -> back to tape.
It is a problem in iMovie.
Since most people burn iMovie Projects to DVD maybe you should test a "sample" of the iMovie after it is burned (converted to MPEG-2).
It may also have something to do with the Audio MIDI Setup app (Utilities folder). Audio output should be set to the correct hardware and the settings format should be 44100Hz and 16 bit sample size.

Mar 25, 2007 9:12 AM in response to QuickTimeKirk

thanks for the help - I will try that once I'm back from vacation.

Also following the maintainance tips from above I ran several system checks including a disk verify and it turns out there is something wrong with the harddrive:

Verifying volume “Macintosh”
Checking HFS Plus volume.
Checking Extents Overflow file.
Checking Catalog file.
Checking multi-linked files.
Checking Catalog hierarchy.
%)
Checking Extended Attributes file.
Checking volume bitmap.
Checking volume information.
Volume Header needs minor repair
The volume Macintosh needs to be repaired.

Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit


1 HFS volume checked
Volume needs repair


well, that has to wait two weeks while I'm gone ... I will make a new backup and shut it down until I'm back (and if I need help fixing it I will post in another more appropriate forum)

Hope I don't have to reinstall everything (... but that would probably fix my problem)


thanks again for all who contributed to try to figure out whats wrong.

-Uwe

Mar 25, 2007 10:48 AM in response to Karl Petersen

That's a good point. I will try that (and if I remember right my PC was using 12bit audio).

The only problem that a did see a while ago with Quicktime that it crashed when there were hickups in the video (short 'empty' tape or at the end of the movie when the empty tape starts) ... iMovie start starts a new clip when that happens (that's why I never tried quicktime again).

Anyway: I will try to see if that helps for the audio - and if this makes a difference there are probably other tools out there that are more robust against those hickups if that turns out to be a consistent problem for me.

thanks
-Uwe

Mar 25, 2007 12:23 PM in response to QuickTimeKirk

yes I should have stopped after 10 minutes ... Quicktime died during recording with an 'unexpected error' .... the mov left on disk is 9.5GB and unusable 😟

So you think this is also a problem when recording with Quicktime? Are there any other options to import Video with 12bit audio (without importing only 10min at a time ... it's 50+ tapes that I want to import) ? I would hate if I have to go back to my PC just to import all the tapes (well I guess I can try to do it from parallels)

thanks
-Uwe

Mar 25, 2007 12:35 PM in response to Uwe_Meier

Thanks to the help of the experts here in the forum the problem is almost solved:

It seems that the problem is that my miniDV tapes are recorded in the LP mode with 12bit audio and that iMovie has problems with 12bit Audio.

I successfully importet 5min of the tape with Quicktime, audio sounds very good.

the open questions now are:

- from what I understand the problem comes mostly when recording more than 10min. Is this true only for iMovie or also for QuickTime Pro?

- when using Quicktime Pro to record, Quicktime sometimes dies unexpected (e.g. when it hits 'unrecorded' parts of the tape

- when importing in iMovie I have to use 'split by timestamp' to import - if I don't do this, I'm not able to export the videos to any other format ('compression error'). But even if I split, I still have the problem of the screwed up audio.

- what other options do I have to import the videos? All I want to do is to store my movies from miniDV as a high quality .mov on my harddrive. I don't have to do any editing since this was done long time ago. Are there any robust DV recorders that are robust with 12bit audio and 'empty tape' segments?

thanks
-Uwe

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