No low battery warning. Reset PMU?

My iBook shut down last night showing about 20 minutes left on the battery. There was no low battery warning...it just shut down. Is this simple a matter of an old battery, or will resetting the PMU help?

iBook G4, Mac OS X (10.3.9), iPod Video

Posted on Mar 26, 2007 12:28 PM

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Mar 27, 2007 9:55 AM in response to Duane

I attempted to reset the PMU last weekend. Looked up and followed the instructions. My understanding was the clock time would be off if the PMU was successfully reset, but my clock time stayed correct. Any insights on whether I did something wrong?

With ibook shut down, I held down shift/option/command (i think that's right....no on the fn key) while depressing the power button. I waited 5 seconds, then powered up again. I didn't hear anything or notice anything different.

Mar 27, 2007 10:18 AM in response to Diane Wordsmith

...but my clock time stayed correct. Any insights on whether I did something wrong?


If Date & Time are configured to correct the clock and you have an active Internet connection you won't ever see incorrect time.

With ibook shut down, I held down shift/option/command (i think that's right....no on the fn key) while depressing the power button. I waited 5 seconds, then powered up again.


The reset PMU procedure is:
  1. If the computer is on, turn it off.
  2. Reset the power manager by simultaneously pressing and then releasing Shift-Control-Option-Power on the keyboard. Do not press the fn (Function) key while using this combination of keystrokes.
  3. Wait 5 seconds.
  4. Press the Power button to restart the iBook computer.

Mar 27, 2007 10:36 AM in response to Duane

Yep. That's what I did. (Without the instructions right in front of me, I guessed wrong on one of the keys, but I was following the instructions you posted, which I got from the Apple Web site.) And I do have Airport with Safari set to open automatically, so I guess that's why the time didn't change.

I think maybe it's just time for a new battery.

Thanks for your response!

Mar 28, 2007 1:54 PM in response to Diane Wordsmith

I do have Airport with Safari set to open
automatically, so I guess that's why the time didn't
change.


Maybe not. My battery problem is that it won't charge, I'm stuck on 1%. I've used coconutBattery to check and the battery seems ok, and the charger is showing lights - but nothing happening.

So I tried a PMU reset with the keystrokes you described and I had the same problem - nothing seems to change. I read your post and tried again with airport switched off, so no internet connection to reset the clock. The clock and date are still fine. I don't think those key strokes are resetting the PMU for some reason.

What doesn't seem right is that it says 'wait 5 seconds' then press power again to restart. But when I press ctrl / shift / option / power the machine immediately starts up. Any ideas anyone?

Mar 28, 2007 4:02 PM in response to Colin Nobbs

The option key is NOT the one with the Apple. There should be a key that says "option."

I think one way you might be able to tell if the PMU has been reset is to run a log in System Profiler.

Go to About this Mac under the Apple and then click on More Info. Scroll through to logs. I can't remember which one it was (console maybe). You might have to do this on the day you do the reset. When I read through my log on the day of my attempted reset, I found a list of messages from that day's date, followed by a date of Dec. 31, then followed by more of the current date. (I maybe a log is only generated when you actually go to System Profiler, and then remains there until you delete it??) The Dec. 31 listings had a message that read "WARNING: preposterous time in Real Time Clock--CHECK AND RESET THE DATE." Another listing said: "Clock Reset! PMU WAS PROBABLY RESET SOMEHOW!!"

Might be helpful to some of you out there...

Message was edited by: Diane Wordsmith

Mar 29, 2007 12:28 PM in response to Diane Wordsmith

Ooops. So it kind of was and wasn't a dumb question. The option key is actually labelled 'alt' key on UK keyboards. So that explains why I wasn't resetting the PMU.

But explain this - I gave up in frustration last night and left my ibook in sleep mode on 2% battery and not plugged in. Just connected the power supply and powered up - the battery had dropped to 0% and a message came up saying the date and time was set wrong (it immediately corrected itself online). And... I now have the the recharge symbol back in my battery icon and I'm already back up to 3% and heading in the right direction. Did I recalibrate?

Mar 29, 2007 5:18 PM in response to Colin Nobbs

Colwn, ahhh, those tricky UK keyboards. Glad you figured that one out.

Well...not sure how much light I can shed, but I'll try.

Calibrating is charging your battery to full and then running it all the way down until the computer actually goes to sleep. (The complete process might actually entail fully charging it again?) Anyway, this complete charge and drain is supposed to calibrate the battery, and, if done on a monthly basis over the life of the battery, should extend its life. (Mine is already 2 years old, so I think I may have waited a bit late.)

Resetting the PMU (Power Management Unit) can help increase battery efficiency, charging, etc., if your PMU has become unstable. Depending on the condition of your battery, it might help, might not.

Not sure if your last question was about the calibrating or resetting the PMU (in reference to whether you'd accomplished it). If your time reset -- and you tried it again holding the correct keys 🙂 -- then I'd say you probably were successful. If you charged your battery all the way up then drained it down, then you calibrated.

I've calibrated and reset the PMU, and I'm still consistently getting about 2 hours from a full charge. (Which compared to some folks ain't bad, but it's about half of what I was getting.) We'll see whether the low battery warning message comes back now that I've reset the PMU. I don't think either of them has affected my battery life/efficiency. I think I'm just about due for a new one. My ioreg command in Terminal gave a cycle count of 319 on my battery; I read somewhere that after 300 you're on the downhill slope.

Don't know if that helps....

Cheers!

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