Ethernet Connection To Belkin Router

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Ethernet Connection To Belkin Router

When I commenced using my MacPro last year I found it to be immediatelyin touch via ethernet with the internet through my Belkin together with my G4 and a PC laptop, the latter using WIFI. Recently, I've had a problem with my connections and partly finalised matters by going through the many cookies which had arrived on my G4 in my absence from home through others' use.... (and they won't be using it anymore!) I say partly finalised because the connection with my G5, which had appeared so easily when I first installed has now disappeared and, despite my looking at the settings and trying to rearrange them, I am failing dismally so I can't use it to download future improvements from Apple. Most important for things like FCP etc.

My ISP does not provide an address for the router. It is through DHCP auto. I'm not sure how to obtain it again for the G5 and the settings show that it is locked onto a fixed TCIP reading which I can't open and which doesn't work... ! When I try settings similar to my other computers with a changed address to try and match it, there's no sign of acceptance.

Does anyone here know the remedy ? T.I.A.

Ron

Desktop G4 Dual 800 - X3.9 - MacPro 250 HD - 1gb RAM, Mac OS X (10.1.x), Also FCP5 in Macpro and FCP3 in OSX and OS9.2.2

Posted on Apr 7, 2007 3:49 AM

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Answer 1

Apr 7, 2007 7:54 AM in response to Ron

Describe your network, is the Belkin connected to your ISP modem/router? Does the Belkin have more than one port for LAN connection? Is it the G5 or the Mac Pro that you are having problems with?

Many times, people will perform MAC or network card filtering on their access point or router, or restrict the number of IP addresses available, etc, If you set it up when using the G5 to only have 1 IP address, your Mac Pro would use that one, and the router wouldn't issue another. Bottom line, if you describe the setup you have, and the machine you have issues with, I/we can probably help. It might be something very simple that is not readily apparent.

Michael

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Ron Author

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Apr 7, 2007 1:38 PM in response to Michaelworks

Miichael - firstly, I mentioned G5 but intended it to have been MacPro !

My Belkin Router contains all that is necessary for Net connection. The MacPro has no modem and the G4 modem is not used. The laptop P.C. also does not have to use its modem. The router shows any one or more of four connections by a green light, whether Ethernet or WIFI when connected. At the moment, three of the lights are on indicating connections with the MacPro, G4 and laptop ! However, despite the indication, the MacPro reports not being connected to the internet.....Both the G4 and the laptop are connected to and being used on the Net.

I find the peculiarity of the settings on the MacPro quite unlike that found on a P.C. Very little information in fact. Searching in Network Settings and looking at Status then using Network Diagnostics I am unable to clinch a shown connection. I chose the same live IP address as shown on both other computers, confirmed Built In Ethernet then DHCP which I know is correct, then showed that the router was connected to the MacPro and the internet. I obeyed the instruction to restart the router then requested Continue. Network Diagnostics then confirmed it could not correct the current networking problem together with advice to ensure I'm using the correct networking settings. All the while, the three indicator lights on the Belkin Router are showing green whereas the MacPro says it is not connected....

Ron

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Answer 3

Apr 7, 2007 2:12 PM in response to Ron

OK, I hear you say the errors are showing on the MP. If you go to System Preferences, Network, when you get to the Network Status window, if the padilock is closed you have to open it to make any changes. If it is open, then toggle down to Show: Built-in Ethernet 1 or 2 ( the one connected). There you will see the parameters that are set for that connection. If the IP address there appears as a 169.xxx.xxx.xxx that means it did not get an address from your router. Make sure it is set to Using DHCP and then click Renew DHCP Lease. This screen is where you enter all of your parameters. Across the top you will see the various settings tabs and you can check Ethernet to be sure it is set to automatic. This screen is similar to using the ipconfig command in a DOS window. If it still won't give you an IP, you may want to try turning off IPv6. It may not be the cause, but sometimes equipment talking to a MP configured with IPv6 available doesn't know what to do and how to supply an IP with DHCP. Post back if this fails to produce results. I can check back later, or others may be able to resolve if you post details of the responses you get.

Michael

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Ron Author

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Apr 8, 2007 12:40 AM in response to Michaelworks

The times I've gone along that route.... When I select Ethernet 1, the page shows that TCP/IP is selected with that IP address beginning with 169. In case it helped I renewed DHCP lease (which was blank) to an address next to those already in use on my other computers. Then I selected Ethernet which immediately shows its Ethernet ID and configured Automatically - what I've been seeing all the time. Locking in the changes produces, after some wait, the message Not Connected etc. However, a clue showed on one occasion when the same action produced the message - Safari couldn't open the page because the server stopped responding.

When I select Ethernet 2, the page shows that once again TCP/IP is selected and not Ethernet - Automatic so I again select Ethernet on the page when Configure - Automatically again then shows. Same result from Safari - unable to connect.

In view of the message regarding the Server stopping its response, I've tried restarting when going throukgh the selection procedure as well as cutting the power to the server, waiting until its up and running again then selecting, all to no avail.

Still stumped.

Ron.

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Answer 5

Apr 8, 2007 9:00 AM in response to Ron

OK,

You can only be hooked up to either Ethernet 1 or 2, because you only have one cable ( or at least I think you didn't use two ). So only try any of this with the one you have connected. If you renew the IP address and it gives you one, then Safari should work. If it doesn't and you still have the IP your router gave you, close down Safari and then boot Safari up again. No joy? Clear the cache and history. It could be that you are trying to go to a page that doesn't exist, or the cache keeps bringing you back to it. The 169 address is an address it assigns itself and is created when you don't get an IP from the router. No need to lock anything until you get it working consistantly. Your post tells me you got an IP from the router, so try the above and post back. If you are doing this right when you boot, or come out of sleep, there is a delay between when the IP address is a 169 and when it gets one from the router, even here on mine. Might be just that you aren't waiting long enough before booting Safari, don't know.

Michael

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blayzay

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Apr 8, 2007 11:44 AM in response to Ron

I may be wrong but Belkin eternet Router is,nt compatable with appl macs i,ve got one since 2 years setting here looking looking at me.

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Answer 7

Apr 8, 2007 8:40 PM in response to Michaelworks

I thought of another possible addition. If it still fails, try entering the router IP address into the DNS field. Sometimes the home routers aren't as robust as some of the others. This way the address will be the gateway and the DNS and your Mac will send all requests to it.

Michael

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Ron Author

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Apr 8, 2007 11:12 PM in response to Michaelworks

Thanks. ........biayzay - there are plenty of videographers and others like myself who have used the Belkin for some years now and find it perfectly amenable to the Mac. Like me, you also appear to have a problem....

Michael - I'm continuing in that other thread now, and thanks again.

Ron

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Ron Author

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Apr 8, 2007 11:58 PM in response to Michaelworks

I thought of another possible addition. If it still
fails, try entering the router IP address into the
DNS field. Sometimes the home routers aren't as
robust as some of the others. This way the address
will be the gateway and the DNS and your Mac will
send all requests to it.

Michael

Tried that, Michael. NBG. The actual Gateway address on the Router page is shown differently so I'll also try that and will comment back.

Ron

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Ron Author

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Apr 9, 2007 3:49 AM in response to Ron

Still trying..... I'm going through whatever Manual Settings I can raise now in the hope that I'll stumble on the right one. Get a delay from Safari whilst it looks so that's a minorly helpful sign..... !

Ron

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Answer 11

Ron Author

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Apr 9, 2007 9:13 AM in response to Ron

No luck. Really am stumped now. Removed Cache and History from Safari - took the power off the router at different points - restarted router at various points including those mentioned by Diagnostics - changed Ethernet connections and added a separate one so that I can get both Ethernet 1 and 2 - tried "all" the Manual setting variations - reset router to factory settings a couple of times - checked and ensured that all three addresses are showing in the DHCP Client list, that those same addresses are shown in the MAC listing, and that all lights relative are displayed as live (green) with the cables connected. Other previous info still applies regarding other action taken.

The peculiar thing is that when I first installed my MacPro it instantly recognised its router setting and has worked properly until now. I recall how simply and speedily it did so.

Ron.

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Answer 12

Ron Author

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Apr 9, 2007 11:12 AM in response to Ron

Info from Fox Video on DV Doctor Foorum said use TCP/IP setting withits own settings then choose Sharing>Firewall Off>(Router acts as hardware firewall) turningit on again after troukble shooting.

Then: Restart> Mac should then aquire addrress from router and connect to network/web.

I couldn't go for it on the G4 because I cokuldn't see how, so used the laptop PC settings but without good result.

Anyone know this route and how.... ?

Ron

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Answer 13

Apr 9, 2007 6:13 PM in response to Ron

Ron,

Do an ipconfig /all on the PC, then transfer all the settings except the IP to the Mac Pro, inputting where you have fields, particularly the outside DNS settings, and make sure the router is shown as the gateway. Did you just do an update to the MP? Maybe 10.4.9 broke something?

Michael

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Ron Author

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Apr 10, 2007 12:17 AM in response to Michaelworks

Hi Mchael, sorry aboujt this - have a look into the DV Doctor Forum and see my response to Fox Video who usually knows his stuff and has been very helpful over the years. You'll see my MP is now stuck with the Apache page and I'm getting nervous about any further changes which may dig deeper the wrong way.

Thanks for your continued interest.

Ron

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Answer 15

Ron Author

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May 10, 2007 8:28 AM in response to Ron

A~fter much enquiring and delving I evenutally found that the Belkin router was not acting fully as expected and finally found it to show a power llight failure. Repllacement has been made byh B elin and I'm now up and running.

Thanks all for your inputs and very helpful suggestions. O<ne they did do is cause me to learn more about the MacPro generally.....

Ron

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