can't reconnect edited TIFF files back into library

yes. the tiffs were created from the raw files. everything was fine until I had a hard drive issue. when I went to restore the library, all of the tiffs I had created were no longer linked in the library and when I try to reconnect them, aperture tells me that they are offline and are of a smaller size than the tiffs actually are. these tiffs were edited in photoshop and have multiple layers so they are large files. for instance, aperture is telling me that an offline tiff file is 70 megs, when, in actuality the tiff file is more like 300 megs. because of this size difference, aperture won't let me relink the images.

Antonio

Thanks for the help, but I'm not sure I've made myself clear.

I have a library that was running normally until I had a hard drive issue which required me to restore my library from a vault. When I did that, images that were tiff files (created in Aperture, edited in PS and saved back to the original file) were no longer connected to the Aperture library. Most of the RAW files were just fine and I had to manually reconnect some of them. When I went to manually reconnect the tiff versions (that were made and managed via Aperture), Aperture would not let me reconnect them. It told me that the images were of different sizes and would not let me reconnect them.

I am currently in the process of reimporting these tiff images into another empty project and am going to see what I can do from there.

The point of my problem is that after I restored the library from the vault, Aperture, for some unknown reason, is giving me erroneous info about the TIFF files, telling me that they are not online and that the file sizes are not the same as the ones that were originally created by Aperture and PS.

Please look at the screenshots I posted in my first post to see what is happening.

Antonio

Thanks for all the words of help.

What is strange about this is this:

I'm working with NEF raw files from a D2X.

Before my hard drive issue, I did some editing of the raw files in Aperture. Then, I had Aperture send the tweaked file to Photoshop for more editing. Aperture sent over a 16bit tiff file. The file was about 70 megs in size (a 12.4 megapixel file @16 bits). Fine.

So, I did some editing and resizing in Photoshop and ended up with a layered TIFF file which was about 300 megs in size. Fine.

I saved it and went back to Aperture. Aperture took a minute or two to update the thumbnail. Fine - it's a big file. So far, everything was working as it should.

Back in Aperture, the edited TIFF was (automatically) stacked with the raw NEF file. Fine.

Then... HARD DRIVE ISSUE (actually, a raid failure, but that's another story).

After many hours or rebuilding and restoring from a saved vault, I get this issue where Aperture cannot find the stacked, edited tiffs. Ok, fine, so....

I go to the "manage referenced files" command and navigate to the tiff files stored on my hard drive and bingo....

No go...

But the strange thing is (and you can see it in my second screenshot above) that aperture is looking for a 70meg image where the edited image is actually much larger. If you look at this screenshot ( http://amrosario.com/Aperture002.jpg ) you can see that Aperture is looking for a 70.1mb file at 2852x4296 pixels. This is what Aperture originally sent over to Photoshop for me to edit. The actual edited file was saved (and cataloged by Aperture before my HARD DRIVE ISSUE) as a 236.8mb file at 3419x5150 pixels (this was the edited version.

After my hard drive issue and restore from vault, Aperture "forgot" that I had edited the image and enlarged it. It is looking for the 16bit TIFF that it originally sent to Photoshop when I first started to edit the image.

This is the big problem and, I think, bug in Aperture.

I have since reimported the TIFF files and will re-stack them with the original NEFs. But this is a lot of work.

I'm wondering if someone from the Aperture team can help figure this out.

I hope that I've made the problem clearer. This is hard to do with words.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Antonio

Okay, so I am not crazy then. Phew! 🙂

Could you all mention what cameras this is happening with? I noticed that with a friend's Canon 1Ds MkII, the file sizes were all kooky too.

My whole workflow is kept within Aperture. The only time it goes out to PS is for retouching and resizing. All the keywording and exposure adjustments are done from within Aperture.

I use Aperture to make a TIFF version, do some editing in PS and then send it back to Aperture, which stacks it with the original raw file.

This is all very disconcerting to me.

Anyway, I just came back from a job where I shot over 1100 images in just under 3 hours and am going to do the processing in LightRoom this one time.

Antonio