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Food for thought about all this video conversion

Are we not seeing the wood for the trees?

Here's a copied reply from me to another thread - apologies that it's not a formal question, just thought that many of us are maybe getting worked up over video conversion etc, but I honestly occasionally wonder about the time expended/benefit ratio!:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=929547&tstart=0

Comments welcome.

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Hi Canucks

Pleas don't take this the wrong way - just some food for thought.

You've converted nearly 2/3 of about 800 DVDs so far - that's pretty impressive given how long it takes per movie.
I've managed less than 20 in 3-4 weeks.

Numbers aside, it's just dawned on me recently that I haven't actually watched a single one of those converted movies through to the end via Apple TV!

Now I'm certainly planning on developing a huge streaming movie library, but when you think about it, there's only so much time in the day to watch or for that matter, convert movies.

So, if you already have a couple of hundred movies available to watch, how many have you actually looked at? Let's say each movie is 2 hours long, and you watched 2 each day - you've probably got enough content to keep you going for a few months already!

I'm not being critical, just personally wondering how much benefit all this converting gives you, compared to the time/storage costs.

If there was a new movie out I'd probably want to watch it in full quality from DVD with Dolby/DTS surround rather than via AppleTV but for things I'd seen before AppleTV might be just the ticket to re-watch DVDs sitting on a shelf I haven't looked at for years, and that's how I plan to use it.

As I say this is just food for thought, but I was just reading something the other day (effectively about time management) which brought home to me something I'd been suspecting for a while - basically that some gadgets can take up more time and give you more hassle than return benefit and I think that getting worked up over movie conversions/storage is one of those things.

Don't get me wrong I love my AppleTV but I think I will mainly use if for listening to my music collection, and showing home movies/photos. I have literally tens of thosuands of digital photos taken in the last few years that I never look at on the PC or print, but AppleTV is the perfect medium for making these available for family/friends when they come round.

I still plan on converting DVDs/Eye TV/Topfield captures for the AppleTV, but if I watch a couple a week anc ocnvert a couple a week that should suffice.


I am about 2/3rds into converting 800 DVD's to MP4, I
am really happy with the options apple tv gives me
and the quality is great. there is however a small
quirk. I am storing all this media on a 1TB firewire8
external HDD and have to my horror discovered I will
not have enough storage space to fit this and future
movies on. SO what the heck do I do?.

iMac Core 2 Duo 20", Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Apr 23, 2007 11:44 AM

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12 replies

Apr 23, 2007 11:53 AM in response to Alley_Cat

Whether or not I am able to watch all of the movies I convert is beside the point. I want the option/convenience of having my movies accessable by my ATV. Also, it makes it very convenient to have a very portable library with me in case i want to go to my girlfriends house and watch movies (or to a friends). I bet some 3rd parties will start producing a ATV case for carrying your ATV and accessories around with you.

glor

Apr 23, 2007 12:11 PM in response to Glorfindeal

I'm one of the lucky few that knows someone who just LOVES to encode to first iPod and now AppleTV format. I have to say that it is quite convenient to borrow their content on my AppleTV in order to catch up on shows or see a movie I haven't seen. I can appreciate being able to have an entire bookcase full of DVD's available to me for viewing either streaming from my HD or via synching.

Apr 23, 2007 12:16 PM in response to Glorfindeal

I would LOVE to have all the recorded/commercial videos/DVDs that I own instantly available too, it's just the time and hassle involved - I bet Apple are banking on this to get people to buy iTunes movies etc. trouble is here in the UK we can only buy music/music videos, not movies.

Whether or not I am able to watch all of the movies I
convert is beside the point. I want the
option/convenience of having my movies accessable by
my ATV. Also, it makes it very convenient to have a
very portable library with me in case i want to go to
my girlfriends house and watch movies (or to a
friends). I bet some 3rd parties will start
producing a ATV case for carrying your ATV and
accessories around with you.

glor

Apr 23, 2007 12:41 PM in response to Alley_Cat

I'm getting started with my conversion process as well. I don't have anywhere near 800 DVDs (maybe 150 or so) so it won't be too bad. I just let Handbrake do the ripping/encoding so its as simple as putting the disc in, hitting a button and walking away. I just make sure to go back to the office every couple of hours or so to start the next disc. The convenience of having all of your movies available to you at the push of a button is awesome. I only have about 20 DVDs done so far as I just started, but I've already watched a couple older movies that I otherwise probably wouldn't have.

Apr 23, 2007 1:08 PM in response to Tim Rogers

Honestly, the only movies I have converted are for my iPod so I can watch them on plane trips. I've put the movies I've already converted on the ATV just because I have them. When the hard drive starts filling up, they'll be the first thing to go.

I bought the ATV more for home movies, music videos, and TV shows or the occasional movie from the iTunes store.

Anything I have on DVD I'll just watch on DVD.

I'm actually quite disappointed in the inability to view music video playlists.

Apr 23, 2007 1:44 PM in response to Alley_Cat

Personally, I think all the video conversion is a waste of time for me. All of my movies are already available at the tip of my finger. I simply pop them into my DVD player. Works everytime. No re-encoding necessary. DVDs are quite portable already. Most people these days have a DVD player. You can take them to a friends house and watch them without a single bit of conversion. And they'll be better quality than the 640x480 AppleTV format.

The idea of AppleTV in interesting (being able to view content from your computer in your big TV) but I haven't found it necessary for movies I have on DVD.

Just my $0.02

Apr 23, 2007 1:56 PM in response to Steve Kellener

While there's always a certain comfort with the DVD format, there is a tangible difference between

a) retrieving a DVD case (probably not at the tip of your fingers if you're sitting comfortably in front of your television, but nearby), opening it and removing the DVD then inserting the DVD into your player

and

b) selecting a title from a list (at the tip of your thumb as long as you've got your remote)

I think the PERFECT solution would be to have a multi disc player with images and synopsis information of each disk so you get the portability of DVD with the quick hands-off random access satisfaction you get from having it automated. (Just remember to put it back in there when you come back from your friends house 🙂

Apr 23, 2007 4:53 PM in response to Kyn Drake

Ahhh... that collector Gene that so many of us fight with -

I am trying to ONLY rip my fave clips/scenes and music videos - If I am going to blow two hours on a movie I don't mind fishing it out and loading it.

Sure I could just cram in a DVD - but the music of ed sullivan box set is a great example - I could

1. get the box
2. read the tiny print on the back to find out which one of the 9 (40 min) dvds
3. take the time to load it in - wait (OH YEAH - then there is those DVDs that FORCE you to watch the FBI warnings - WARNING YOU that just paid 24.00 for it NOT to rip off - THEN FORCE you to watch trailers and promos)
4. hunt down the clip and play

or

click over to apple TV - find the clip (grouped with others BY that performer) and play - I am watching clips that i would bother to load up - I love this convenience.

fritz

Apr 23, 2007 6:00 PM in response to Alley_Cat

When, and only when, apple starts selling movies in HD format will I purchase them from iTunes, otherwise I'll just continue to buy the dvd's and rip them myself.

Glor
I would LOVE to have all the recorded/commercial
videos/DVDs that I own instantly available too, it's
just the time and hassle involved - I bet Apple are
banking on this to get people to buy iTunes movies
etc. trouble is here in the UK we can only buy
music/music videos, not movies.

Whether or not I am able to watch all of the movies

I
convert is beside the point. I want the
option/convenience of having my movies accessable

by
my ATV. Also, it makes it very convenient to have

a
very portable library with me in case i want to go

to
my girlfriends house and watch movies (or to a
friends). I bet some 3rd parties will start
producing a ATV case for carrying your ATV and
accessories around with you.

glor

Food for thought about all this video conversion

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