Imported Video has "lines" that are visible

I have an Canon HV20 and import and editing all works quite well. The video looks perfect in iMovie HD unless ... I goto full screen mode.

Once there, I can see lines in the video. The Canon HV20 is set to record in its standard HDV mode and iMovie says the video is (HD-1080i-30) which I believe is correct.

I also exported a sample to QuickTime to see if the problem showed and it did show when I exported at full quality. When I exported at Web Streamining quality it did not appear to show but the quality isn't all that hot so it is sort of tough to tell.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on May 15, 2007 8:48 PM

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May 15, 2007 9:41 PM in response to jimbo-mac

iM is a DV-editor, copying (=lossless transfer) video via firewire from miniDV devices ...
and: iM produces for TV-delivery...

do you see those lines, when you playout your project back to tape/connect camera to TV... ? I'm sure, you will not...

the 'i' stands for interlaced; a computer, any computer can not show such video; plus, QTplayer and iM are both set to a 'low' playback quality (you can change that in QTpro.. but, you will see interlace lines on a Mac anyhow) ...

the 'web' export a) deinterlaces, b) is probably to low in resolution to show such lines.. 😉

May 16, 2007 4:55 AM in response to jimbo-mac

"..I can see lines in the video.."

What sort of lines? ..Horizontal lines, vertical lines? ..Imaging chips generally produce bright vertical lines which appear above and beneath very bright highlights (..when you catch the sun or a bright reflection..) as in the second shot in this movie, at the right-hand edge of the video, where the boat's rudder is ..as the camera catches reflections from the water below.

Do you mean white lines, like those, or dark lines? ..Or do you mean that you see a kind of "twinkling" in the video, where very small, detailed highlights 'ripple' ..like in the last shot in that video, before it fades to black? ..That's where highlights in the water (in the still shot of the two pilot boats) 'ripple' (..quite appropriately, really!..) as the movie pans across the still photo.

That "highlight ripple" is the result of fine detail in the original HD movie (..or fine detail in the original still photo..) carrying across the 'scan lines' of the finished movie. It's called 'aliasing' (or 'line twitter').

So, er, which kind of lines are you seeing? ..Or some other kind altogether?

May 16, 2007 5:36 PM in response to jimbo-mac

I am pretty sure this is an interlacing problem.

What is really odd is that the video look perfect in iMovie just so long as I do not set it to full screen. Once in full screen then you can see an interlacing problem. I tried a variety of exports and settings including de-interlace but even in QuickTime you could see the interlacing problem.

I did create a DVD and you could not see the interlacing (except when paused, just a little bit). interestingly the video really down graded in the conversion from HDV to DVD.

I did send some video back to my camera and will take a look to see how it comes out. In the small screen it appeared to be just fine so I will put it on the big HDTV to make sure.

There were some posts mentioning that you should ensure that iMovie is set to the proper capture settings. I have yet to find these as I am betting that a capture at 1080i-60 would probably solve the problem.

Jul 17, 2007 10:36 AM in response to jimbo-mac

I'm having the same (or similar) trouble. I shot a dance recital on a canon xl2. I brought it into iMovie (I have FCP, but it doesn't work on the MP). I have reason to believe that imovie doesn't actually export at "full quality".

I'm seeing vertical lines...especially when there is a solid diagonal line with two contrasting colors..ex: a dancers leg in front of a blue lit scrim. The lines are apparent both in the regular iMovie viewer and also in the full screen preview. I exported the clip in several different formats and settings (don't really know what I'm doing here) but none of them work...even the simple "full quality" export leaves me with a .dv file with vertical lines (as well as the horizontal interlacing? lines that I see when viewing it as a .dv quicktime file...but these aren't there when watching the dvd)

I burnt a dvd with the clip and it has the vertical lines on both the computer and actual dvd player. I thought maybe it was the camera (aliasing?) but when I plug the camera directly into the tv, there is no problem. Even when I export from iMovie back out to the camera the vertical lines are gone.

This is why I have reason to believe it is a problem with iMovie's export to "full quality". I have yet to get the FCP upgrade and test it against this problem. I also have not used footage from that camera with FCP when I had it on my G5.

Thank you for your help.


MacPro Dual core 3 GHz Ram Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Jul 19, 2007 10:03 AM in response to jimbo-mac

Once there, I can see lines in the video. The Canon
HV20 is set to record in its standard HDV mode and
iMovie says the video is (HD-1080i-30) which I
believe is correct.


I have a similar problem:
I have a Panasonic miniDV camcorder and the import of the PAL DV streams works fine. No lines on video.
Only at the export (iDVD, Quicktime...) I have horizontal lines in the videos.
I think, it is an interlace problem. But how can I bypass this problem?

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