Apple TV and 802.11n = slow?

Hi all,

I've got a 802.11n Mac and Apple's 802.11n AirPort (which is great)
connecting an Apple TV. Syncing from the Mac to the ATV is very slow:
probably twenty or thirty minutes to copy a 100 MB movie. However, if I connect the Mac to the AirPort via wired Ethernet, everything works fine.

In theory, the slow sync shouldn't matter because it happens in the
background. But it's annoying because I'm often wanting to copy home movies I've made on the Mac to the ATV.

Connecting the ATV via a wire doesn't make any differencet; it's the Mac that
needs wired Ethernet to be fast.

All three devices are within 15 of each other, in the same room.

Any ideas?

regards,
fh

Posted on May 19, 2007 1:41 PM

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May 19, 2007 3:18 PM in response to Fergus Hammond

Even though your devices are 15 (presume you mean ft) apart, I'd still try moving things closer for diagnostic reasons. Other than that I feel you may be suffering some interference, I can't remember whether you can change channel on the n network on an extreme (you definitely can't if you're using dual channel), if you can, you might want to give it a go. I'm also wondering if your mac is properly enabled for n, r whether it's sat right next to the tv.
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May 22, 2007 7:27 PM in response to Fergus Hammond

I was never happy with Airport express frankly. I plan on pluggin my appleTV in. The wireless stiuff just breaks down in a house. Too much interference. I play music at parties and the stuff cuts out and is embarrassing. A cat 5 cable should cure that. I am not bothering with wireless. The movies are just too big too stream. None of the articles I have read have made the streaming sound good.

May 27, 2007 1:43 PM in response to Brett Grossmann

Streaming over 802.11n works fine, even with interference. I encode my DVDs using the Handbrake preset of 2500kbps, so with audio that's 2660kbps. My wireless is giving me actual throughput of ~32,000kbps, which is fast enough for streaming.

My only issue with the streaming is fast forward and especially rewind which just plain don't work when streaming. Sounds like the AppleTV needs to revise it's buffering techniques to allow rewinding.

Cheers, Ed.

May 27, 2007 4:12 PM in response to Edward Groenendaal

My only issue with the streaming is fast forward and especially rewind which just plain don't work when streaming. Sounds like the AppleTV needs to revise it's buffering techniques to allow rewinding.

One of my tv's is on a 'g' network alongside a wifi HD security camera, I haven't measured the throughput, but it's good enough so that I don't have a problem with RW/FF. However this isn't the point, you and I are talking about 2.4 Ghz the OP was talking about 5 Ghz, even under good conditions with no obstructions our networks have about 3 times the range of the OP's and as soon as you introduce walls, well the difference becomes even greater.

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May 28, 2007 4:50 AM in response to Fergus Hammond

I have two Apple TV units connecting wirelessly via 802.11n to a 5GHz Airport Extreme base station. My performance for streaming is great, and I can sync data to them at approximately 500MB/min.

THe key for me was to setup a completely independent 802.11n network using the new Airport Express, leaving the old Airport Extreme base station and AIrport Express repeaters on an indepdent dedicated 802.11g network. The two access points are wired together via Ethernet, and sit beside each other, but the 802.11n network has only 802.11n devices on it (and is configured for 5GHz n-mode only).

The bottom line is that putting even a single 802.11g device on an 802.11n network will significantly reduce the transfer performance (to the point where you might just as well be using an 802.11g network in the first place). Throw a couple of Airport Express units in WDS mode, and you've totally sapped any performance increase the 802.11n will buy you.

May 28, 2007 4:50 AM in response to Fergus Hammond

I have two Apple TV units connecting wirelessly via 802.11n to a 5GHz Airport Extreme base station. My performance for streaming is great, and I can sync data to them at approximately 500MB/min.

THe key for me was to setup a completely independent 802.11n network using the new Airport Express, leaving the old Airport Extreme base station and AIrport Express repeaters on an indepdent dedicated 802.11g network. The two access points are wired together via Ethernet, and sit beside each other, but the 802.11n network has only 802.11n devices on it (and is configured for 5GHz n-mode only).

The bottom line is that putting even a single 802.11g device on an 802.11n network will significantly reduce the transfer performance (to the point where you might just as well be using an 802.11g network in the first place). Throw a couple of Airport Express units in WDS mode, and you've totally sapped any performance increase the 802.11n will buy you.

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