8 Replies Latest reply: May 31, 2007 12:25 AM by Eme
adidasguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
I currently run Safari (1.3.2(v312.6) on my Powerbook G4 that has Mac OSX 10.3.9.
Our company homepage is crashing Safari. I was told to get the newer version of it. Is there anything newer that runs on 10.3.9?
I am told that the "java" code used in our homepage causes some Safari users to crash. Any help?

David

www.scenedaily.com

PowerBook G4, Mac OS X (10.3.9)
  • Eme Level 5 Level 5 (5,635 points)
    HI David,

    No unfortunatley there is not a newer version of Safari for os 10.3.9.

    See this link below on OS versions & Safari versions.

    http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/uamatrix.html

    Webkit may had been useful , since it has the latest fixes however it is
    only for os Tiger 10.4

    Have you enabled the Debug menu in Safari, that can be helpful due to the User Agent you can enable it using the Terminal application, Oynx &
    another third party app, I can't think of at the time.

    Have you tried emptying the Java cache? though I presume
    they mean Javascript, not Java?

    Maybe an other browser, would help? CaminoOperaFirefox


    Let us know.

    Eme '~[ )♥♪

    edited by: Eme~~~ is this the link to your site www.scenedaily.com, that crashes some users Safari?

    -edited-2x by: Eme if it is this is how it Validates. on WC3
    Result: Failed validation, 227 errors
    Address:
    Encoding: utf-8
    Doctype: (no Doctype found)
    I am using webkit now, I will try the site with all my browsers & post back later.
  • Pervert Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    "No unfortunatley there is not a newer version of Safari for os 10.3.9."

    But, a new one sure is needed even for 10.4.9 Operating system. There are so many problems with Safari, it is unbelievable. Not too long ago I had to do an erase and install of OS 10.4.... just because Safari most always had to be forced to quit. NOT FUN! I put up with my Credit Unions/Banks/Credit Card web site not loading properly in Safari for a long time. Now, I signed up for gmail a couple of weeks ago and I found out I could receive HTML, but could not FORWARD anything but PLAIN TEXT using Safari - so I switched to Firefox and all problems were solved. Did a discussion search for gmail/plain text and found that it has been a problem with Safari for more than a year, in fact the discussions were so old that they were archived and therefore I could not continue the thread. What will it take to get a Safari that works?

    24" iMac 2.16 Intel 2G Memory   Mac OS X (10.4.9)   Parallels Desktop w/Windows Vista Ultimate<
  • adidasguy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
    Yes, the website I am having trouble with is : www.scenedaily.com. I only have trouble with it on my machines with OSX 10.3.9. The people who do our website have started doing sometihng different and it is causing SAFARI to crash. I was told it might be "java" related, but that is over my head. I looked for the DEBUG thing, but cannot find it.
  • Eme Level 5 Level 5 (5,635 points)
    Hi again, David,

    The Debug menu is not set by default, you have to enable it with the Terminal application, OnyX, etc... to do so using Terminal.

    1st Quit Safari,

    Now In a finder window go to Applications folder-> Utilities folder,
    Double click on Terminal application to launch it.

    Copy the command below as it is, & paste it into the window.

    defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

    Click on the return key, you should now be prompted for your Admin password,enter that ( it will not be echoed back, it will not show)
    click on return key.
    When you see the computers/your name again it's done.
    Quit the Terminal application,

    Launch Safari, the Debug menu should be the last menu item on the Safari
    Menu bar..

    If you're not comfortable using the Terminal (really is easy peasy) then download OnyX a freeware cleaning tool, make sure to get the right version, 1.5.3 for Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)
    As an aside see Neil's article on Clearing caches with OnyX .

    and to turn it Debug off again, (albeit no real need to do so)

    defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 0

    I did try the site w/ 2.0.4 yes no crashing, I 'll try later on my flat panel
    running 10.3.9 w/1.3.2 see if mine does.

    Hope this helps some, prob. unfortunately not for stopping the crashes.


    Eme '~[ )♥♪
  • QuickTimeKirk Level 9 Level 9 (50,215 points)
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.scenedaily.com
    It shows 227 errors.
    You don't need a new version of Safari. You need to fix the errors.
  • Eme Level 5 Level 5 (5,635 points)
    Howdy,

    Sorry for the hassles you've had with Safari.

    I recommend you use another browser & use the Debug menu in Safari to use the "Open Page with" feature

    Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

    No one browser will work on all sites. Safari is very picky about code, be nice if it were less picky, & sites were better coded, but that's not the case.

    As a os X Tiger (not for panther) user you can download Webkit from http://webkit.org/
    It is basically Safari w/ bug fixes, which are not yet released, you can run both & at the same time.

    If auto login is important know that webkit does not utilize Keychain & the other thing I have found is that when first Installed it seems to turn the bookmarks favicons into default blue bubbles, if these two features are important to you don't download it.

    I use Safari, (my first choice) Webkit & these browsers,
    Camino
    Opera
    Firefox
    Including Shiira (webkit based) & Realplayer.

    Good luck.

    Eme '~[ ) ♥♪

    edited by: Eme~~~Quicktime , Davids work site was already tested w/ WC3,see my first post to him, I doubt the coding is up to him eh?
    Furthermore the site had no crashing w/ Safari 2.0.4 so yea newer would be better for his needs.
  • Pervert Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)
    Update: I just went back to Safari as my default browser. Quit gmail - well actually I don't use it -couldn't see how to disable it. Just using my Mac email address. Couldn't view HTML in Firefox, but I could send HTML from Firefox; sometimes I could view HTML in Safari, but could not forward it. Duh!!!
    At least it goes both ways in MAIL. Just have to figure out why MAIL is soooo
    slow in sending anything and everything. At least it eventually gets sent so I guess I shouldn't complain.
  • Eme Level 5 Level 5 (5,635 points)
    Hello once again David,

    I tried the site it crashed Safari as I expected, though even before the page loaded, then I tried with the Shiira browser (being webkit based), it loaded but then crashed, pronto.
    Both totally incompatiable with your site ( which yes is not coded to the standards
    one would hope for, that aside.

    I found the crash report interesting Thread 0 doesn't report much on Safari..

    Command: Safari
    Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
    Version: 1.3.2 (312.6)
    PID: 363
    Thread: 0

    Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
    Codes: KERNINVALIDADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xfffffffc

    Thread 0 Crashed:

    Thread 1:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90007878 machmsgtrap + 0x8
    etc.....etc..
    ---------------------------
    & 1st part of Shiira's crash
    ---------------------------
    Command: Shiira
    Path: /Applications/Shiira.app/Contents/MacOS/Shiira
    Version: 1.2 ()
    PID: 471
    Thread: 0

    Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
    Codes: KERNINVALIDADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x06000001

    Thread 0 Crashed:
    0 com.apple.JavaScriptCore 0x961d2c28 compile_branch + 0x844

    so ...

    I download Opera on my iMac running Panther,
    It works splendidly with your site.
    I recommend you get it, it'll be a solution & it is really a very cool browser.
    You can import Safari's bookmarks
    It has a spell checker ( with out applying an extention as firefox needs)& so much more besides.
    I downloaded version 9.21 which is the latest, I think if you try it you will def. like it.


    Please let me know what you think & if you enabled
    the debug menu in Safari.

    Eme'~[)