Connecting External Keyboard Via Environment

If you are just transmitting MIDI over USB, then you won't hear any sound. MIDI does not carry and audio data at all.

If you are trying to use the keyboard to send it's audio over USB, then you'll need to select your Yamaha device as an audio driver, otherwise Logic won't be looking for audio from it.

I wanted to do pretty much what you mentioned as well.....

I did a lot of searching.....on and off this board.

Spent alot of time reading the manual...

I finally came to this....

Keyboard > Logic >Record MIDI Data > Send MIDI back to keyboard > Send audio back to Audio Track.

I dont think its possible to do it as you mention....or as I think you mean...

If someone would prove that wrong I will be jumping for joy right along with you.

I am with you there. I thought the same thing exactly.......that would be killer if it worked that way. I think the key idea mentioned is that MIDI does not contain audio information.

I need to look into this more later. You reminded me of that list of patches that we can customize.....I think Pro Tools does that too.....I wonder how it works on Pro Tools.

Oh man this is coming back to me now.

I was sitting with that book too....going through the exercises and progressing....thought I was on the verge of cracking the case and then BOOM!! Nothing... ARRGGGG!!!!

Just had a thought....I think I will run this by Steve Horelick at the macprovideo forum and see if we can have this addressed in his Tips and Tricks series......

Yeah... it just seems strange that people go out and
buy all these crazy awesome synths, and then end up
recording them as analog audio in the end.

Just curious how you would record them if not audio? I mean
you can record it in midi and audio, there is no third choice.
What I do is record the midi which Logic sends back to my synth
so I can hear what the audio will sound like. Then edit the midi
which is much easier than editing audio but at some point you will
want to record the audio or you just have a track sending midi out
and you will be the only one hearing the audio.

Because the videos you mention did not tell you exactly how to do
this I made one. It should explain what you want but it does not cover
routing the audio back to Logic. Since it will depend on your set up which
way you will do this. I am sure this is what you are trying to do though.
And you are recording the audio digitally since Logic is a DIGITAL AUDIO WORKSTATION. I record my synths audio from my SPDIF OUT so it never gets to the analog state. And yes, it goes on an audio track, where else would you put audio?
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Dual Processor 1.8 G5,2GB Ram Barely limping along on an old outdated OS Mac OS X (10.4.8) Logic Pro 7.2.3 RME Fireface800 Peak Pro5.2

I had an associate ask me why I use the intermediate step of putting
patch names into a spreadsheet and I thought that other people would
like to know why I suggest this.

When copying out of the PDF file I used from Yamaha (on some banks)
it was impossible to get all 128 names of one bank to highlight at one time.
I had success with the first bank but as you can see the PDF had 3 columns
on each page with 2 columns making up one 128 patch bank. This meant
that the 2nd bank started on one page and ended up on another. Since you
have to paste all 128 names at one time you cant do one half and then the
other, you have to do all 128 at the same time. The problem comes in this
PDF when you start on a third column and try to continue highlighting into
the next page.




































As you can see there are two words of non relevant text that
get highlighted with the patch names. These two words are
inserted into the list throwing off the remaining 64 names and
make that bank only half accurate.

Using a spread sheet and making the columns 128 cells long allows
you to cut and paste as many parts of the bank as you need to and use
as many pieces to put the whole bank together, then, when you are
finished getting the whole bank put together you can just highlight the
whole bank from the spreadsheet and copy and paste it in
one fell swoop into Logics patch list.
Not the most elegant way to do this but practical since I just did not want
to type 500+ names individually into Logic.

Since I had only this one PDF to go by, I thought I should add the note
that if your synth manufacturer does not use this format and you can copy
all 128 names of each bank at one time (without any non relevant text
getting in the way) then you can bypass the spreadsheet because then
it would be unnecessary.

Dual Processor 1.8 G5,2GB Ram Barely limping along on an old outdated OS Mac OS X (10.4.8) Logic Pro 7.2.3 RME Fireface800 Peak Pro5.2

Once again, they are left speechless!

but still seems a bit illogical to me...

Probably because you expect to be able to record audio via MIDI.

MIDI doesn't work like that. MIDI is for controlling a synth.

You still have to hear it some way, whether you finally record it back to audio, just monitor the keyboard by plugging some headphones into it, or plugging it and Logic into an external mixer and then onto speakers.

If you just want to hear it live through Logic, connect it's audio outputs into your audio interface, say inputs 1 and 2, then in Logic's environment, create an "Input" object set to the inputs 1 & 2 you are using, turn it's fader up and turn on software monitoring. Then the keyboard's audio will always be live through Logic and you can hear it at all times while sequencing.

Thank you Bee Jay for that added piece of information. I was
unsure about the input objects details. Your patience level
is outstanding.
This would complete the OP's question and give all the details
of how to accomplish this little bit of midi magic. Now I hope they
have not been (maybe just a little) assimilated by the Borg (Microsoft)
because in a community where people are trying to help others
with technical pursuits without any compensation, I do not think
a quick thank you would be asking too much.