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kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)

I bought a MacBook a few month ago which produced the well-known whining, high-frequent noice when connected to the power supply. As an exchange of the logic board didn't make it any better, I finally sent it back.

Now, as the MacBook has just been upgraded, I'm thinking about giving it another try and buy one again. But I wonder if the problem with that "whining" still exists or if I have a good chance to get one which is ok concerning this matter.

So if someone here recently bought a MacBook, please be so kind to tell me if it's affected. Thanks in advance

And yes, I know there's always some risk of having some sort of "defect", however, my impression was that a relatively large number of MacBooks was affected by that whining (perhaps this is not really the case), and I found that noice really annoying.
  • Billy the Bootlegger Level 1 (65 points)
    I bought mine a few weeks ago (a week before the newly updated MacBook came out). The whine is still there. Just try to block it out and don't use it in really quiet spaces.

    I know, it's hard, but you'll get used to it when you stop paying attention to it. Sometimes I still hear it when I'm studying or at a lecture/seminar. I don't let it get to me. It shouldn't stop you from getting a new MacBook in my opinion.

    Hope this helps,


    Ps: I don't know if the whine still exists in the latest MacBook update.
  • 3X Champ Level 1 (115 points)
    The whining is still there. It has to do with the 2nd core on the Core Duo processor. I would say to just deal with it. Anything is worth not using Windows again!
  • kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)
    This doesn't sound so good. I was trying to ignore that noice when I had a MacBook, but I didn't manage to do so. I think it's mainly because the noise isn't continuous, but stops for a short moment whenever you e.g. scroll a webpage or move the cursor over the icons in the dock (at least if they're set to zoom). This makes it hard to get used to it.
    There still would be solutions with ShhMBP or with some "tricks" with PhotoBooth - but both is not what I actually would like to have.

    There seem to be people that don't have that "whining" - I wonder if they just don't hear it or if there are MacBooks that don't whine. One could get the impression that whining is the default behaviour and MacBooks that don't whine are just a rare exception.
  • 3X Champ Level 1 (115 points)
    They probably just don't hear it as much. The ones with the Power PC processors may not have this whine be evident. I had to exchange my first MacBook due to some major performance issues. I also complained about the whining. I forced my Apple store to allow me to open the replacement, as well as listen to some of the ones on display. Unfortunately, they all had the whine. Granted, some were a bit louder than others, but it is there. Unfortunate for me, I hear at exceptionally high frequencies for some reason. However, I managed to get used to it. I am in the electronics business and I swear, no matter how hard I try to find one, everything is going to have a flaw one way or another. Reading all the other problems that people have had on this forum, I am more than happy to accept this minor issue that most of the MacBooks have, than endure some of other issues that I have seen others experience. I suggest you do the same.

    I hope this helps you feel better about what you have in your hands now.

    2.16 Intel Core Duo MacBook (Black)   Mac OS X (10.4.9)  
  • kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)
    Thanks for all the answers.

    Currently, I've nothing in my hands, as I returned the MacBook I bought at the end of last year because of the whining - so I'm not so sure if I could get used to it if I buy a new one and that whines too - unless it's quieter.
    Well, guess I have to think about it for a while.
  • tcdm1972 Level 2 (240 points)
    I haven't come across a Macbook that didn't whine when idle (5 in total). I too had my logic board replaced - and whine still here. Its not the Core Duo or Core2Duo design flaw - rather the OSX that due to throttling down the CPU causes it to whine.
    If you tried using windows XP through Bootcamp - you will discover that the CPU whine is COMPLETELY eliminated there. The battery life isn't as good - but when you're woking in quiet environment - its worth it.

    I do most of my internet searching on Windows XP when in a quiet room.
  • kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)
    Hm, having a MacBook and then mainly using Windows on it seems not to be an ideal solution to me
    Have you heard of "ShhMBP"? I never tried it, but it is said to stop whining both on MacBooks and on MBPs. However, it's an "inofficial" kernel extension - I also wouldn't be happy with that, but perhaps you're not so paranoid as I am

    It more and more seems as if almost all MacBooks were or are affected. I don't understand why Apple doesn't solve this - there was an official statement regarding the whining of the MBPs (and the offer to exchange the logic board, as far as I know), but there seems to be nothing comparable for the MacBooks. Perhaps users should complain more.
  • si3000si Level 1 (0 points)
    only had a macbook for 2 days now and have been using it alot and have had no signs of a whine!
    is it likely for a whine to develop?
  • kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)
    I don't know, but I would guess it's unlikely. With my book, the whine was there from the first time I switched it on.

    Is yours one of the new books?
  • si3000si Level 1 (0 points)
    yeh its a white 2.16Ghhz 2gb ram with 120gd harddrive. is this problem with the new model or the previous model?
  • kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)
    I had problems with the previous model, but I started this thread to find out if the problem still exists and what percentage might be affected.
    As far as I understand the posts here, this problem is not really solved and the number of affected books is relatively high, so it seems you're lucky.
    And as long you don't hear any annoying noise, I'd suggest not to search for it
  • Gabe S Level 1 (65 points)
    I know you're mainly curious about "new" Macbooks and the whining issue, but I thought I'd throw it out there that my Core Duo Macbook and the one I had before it (and returned due to a bad trackpad) both have not had any whine. If I get close to the keyboard I can hear some sizzling noise or a little hum, but that's only within a couple inches of the computer. I have pretty sensitive hearing and can't say that I ever hear a peep from my Macbook. Just thought I'd share my experience.

    From my personal opinion after being on these boards for a year, I think that a lot of people have a "me too" complex. Somone reports that they have an issue with their computer and a couple other people who wouldn't have considered it an issue, or didn't look for it, now notice that their computer does it too! I've read quite a few posts like that. On the other hand, their are a lot of people with genuine issues as well. Like I mentioned earlier, my inital Macbook had a bad trackpad, plus a bowed keyboard. This one had the top case discoloration, but it's all good now. Keep in mind that this site exists solely for people to vent and find answers, and that most people with no problem don't come here. That said, I think the whining issue is a lot less severe than you might be inclined to believe.

    If you're happy with your current Macbook (and you should be, mine is still really quick), then why throw the dice again?

  • kullerhamPster Level 1 (10 points)
    As far as I know, the whining is only a problem with the Core 2 Duo MacBooks, but perhaps I'm wrong with it.

    When I got mine, I noticed the whining before I ever read something about it, it was really noticable when working with it. I wouldn't have complained if I had to put my ear on the keyboard to hear it.

    And as I said I sent it back because of that whining, so I currently don't have a MacBook but only my old iBook. But before buying a new one, I wanted to find out whether whining is still a problem or not. So far, it seems to be so, unfortunately.
  • Gabe S Level 1 (65 points)
    Ah, didn't see that you had sent in your Macbook. Sorry. And for the record, I'm not saying you're one of the people that I was talking about. Just letting you know that there are some people like that out there.

    As for the whining being an issue with only the C2D Macbooks, it's definitely not. It started with the Core Duo models and was something that a lot of people initially complained about. Everyone was hoping that the issue would go away with the upgrade to C2D, and it didn't..but it seems like it's gotten better. Better meaning that it seems like less people are talking about it

    Like you said, it does seem like it's still a potential dealbreaker, just like the "sparkly" displays on the MBP. I was considering upgrading to either a new Macbook or a MBP (long story), but I can't decide if it's worth it to risk giving up a relatively problem-free life on my Macbook. Good luck to you if you decide to give it another go.

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