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When I capture NTSC video the picture 'Rolls'

Hi Everyone,

On the advice of a previous post I have given up on my old Miglia converter and bought a nice Canopus ADVC110.

Using it to capture NTSC footage I get an image in color but the picture rolls constantly (like a vertical hold problem).

The Canopus is set to PAL as the VCR I'm using converts the signal from NTSC to PAL (capturing it with the converter set to NTSC gets a stable picture but in black and white).

FCP is set to capture DV PAL 48khz and 'Non-controlable device'. The timeline is also set to PAL.

I hope this is enough info. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Power Mac Quad G5 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on Jun 11, 2007 6:16 AM

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Posted on Jun 11, 2007 6:21 AM

You've got a feedback loop in your set-up somewhere. OR you need a timebase corrector. Hard to tell without any more info. Like what is the deck you're using?
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Jun 11, 2007 8:14 AM in response to Kojima

I have that deck. It playsback NTSC, but with respect, it doesn't convert it to PAL, it outputs PAL-60, which the ADVC won't like. The signal you get has a PAL colour burst frequency - so you see the colours - but an NTSC frame rate - so it rolls. Your TV is also modern enough to display that PAL-60 signal in colour and stable, but it's NOT proper PAL.

That is your problem. You need either
(a) a real NTSC playback deck, to capture in NTSC, and edit in NTSC, or
(b) a much more expensive "real" NTSC to PAL standards conversion facility, if you must capture in PAL.

BTW: The TBC built into that deck is barely worth the name - it's a single line store, which reduces jitter at the pixel level in the display output, but it won't approach standards conversion. For that, you need an entire frame's worth (or several) of storage.

Jun 11, 2007 8:30 AM in response to mooblie

Thanks to both of you for your help.

mooblie, I feared as much. I'd heard that NTSC to PAL VCRs cut corners but I hoped this one would be different. What kind of equipment would I need for option B?

Also I'll need to capture a Japanese NTSC tape soon will this also be affected by the PAL-60 problem? (I'm guessing-yes!)

Jun 11, 2007 8:42 AM in response to Kojima

What kind of equipment would I need for option B?


Sorry, Kojima, I have no experience of actually using real NTSC to PAL standards conversion equipment - but if it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to buy/hire, it's not going to be much good! 😟

You will have to research that yourself (and maybe start a new thread?)

Also I'll need to capture a Japanese NTSC tape soon
will this also be affected by the PAL-60 problem?
(I'm guessing-yes!)


I expect your Japanese tape will have the same issues.

It might be much cheaper to get a true NTSC VHS playback deck (a plain vanilla, domestic quality one from an NTSC country) and capture and edit in NTSC, THEN convert to PAL at the end of the process (with Nattress?)

Jun 11, 2007 9:16 AM in response to mooblie

BTW: I also assume you are going from your S-VHS deck to your ADVC using S-Video (not Composite video)?

Whether you are playing back a non-S-VHS tape or a S-VHS tape, the deck will output an S-Video signal, and it's far better.

If you try and source a true NTSC VHS deck, try and find an S-VHS NTSC deck, for the same reason.

When I capture NTSC video the picture 'Rolls'

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