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How to live without windowshading?

Folks:


This discussion, Is anyone able to use Unsanity haxies with Lion? seems to have run its course. In summary, it seems:


• The answer is "no", Unsanity haxies are unusable with 10.7.x


• Unsanityisn't showing signs of life and, even if they revive, it may be impossible for a third party to implement haxies in 10.7+


• Apple is showing no signs of providing these functions built-in.


• Some people --including me-- are very frustrated by the lack of some functions formerly provided by these haxies.


I'm going to concentrate on the most significant issue for me and for at least some of the people on the above-referenced thread: Windowshading. How can we live without windowshading in 10.7 and beyond? Windowshading, long ago, was built in to the Mac OS. I liked having many, sometimes dozens of files open, easily identifiable, easily restored to full size, arranged on the desktop, generally approximating my workflow, without taking up more than a thin horizontal strip of the desktop for each. I liked being able to arrange these on the desktop as required by my workflow, especially when things are evolving.

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Since Apple does continue to support windowshading in one 10.7 app --Stickies-- it is clear that this function still has some validity. Should this give us windowshading-wanters hope?


Probably not. I'm guessing that Apple Human Interface designers made a special exception for Stickies, as this app has doesn't save any visible files. My guess is that the HI folks feel strongly (VERY strongly) that any kind of desktop workflow-representation should be done with the file icons themselves, on the desktop or in folders. I'm guessing they see the windowshaded representations as bad compromises. I've also seen some evidence that Apple is going in the direction of reducing the distinction between "open" files and prospectively open ones. (D'oh! I wish I'd recorded some links to the articles describing this.)


Well, all in all, it seems we're not going to get windowshading. Juggling lots of open files all at once? Organizing according to workflow? What are the current options? To start: we can shove open windows partly off to the side. That's good for at most 2 or three files per screen edge, left, right, and bottom (with some interference from the Dock) and isn't necessarily so helpful as left and right-shoved files are likely difficult to identify as their titles fall off-screen.


Shrinking to the dock? Yeah, that works -- but in my view only for a very limited number of files.


What about using the solution the HI folks seem to be pushing for, organizing the file icons on the desktop or inside folders? Credit where credit is due: for image files in folders, in cases in which the file icon is a representation of the image, with Finder View-->Show View Options-->Show icon preview enabled, the HI folks have provided a brilliant solution: just use the icon size slider at lower right as necessary. For most images I've worked with, the icon preview can easily be made big enough to recognize and sort each image. None of the image files need be open. Cool.


For me this applies less well to non-image files. Text: I'm imagining sorting hundreds of short files each with a brief bit of text inside (e.g. quotes) all formatted at 9 point. I don't think this will work so well: for me, such text isn't readable even at maximum icon magnification. I simply don't have enough experience with miscellaneous files that don't fit in these categories. Do "minor" 3rd party apps provide icon preview images? (Full disclosure: just now is the first time I've even tried this with non-image files. D'oh!)


Another approach that works for me is to use Mission Control and multiple Desktops/Workspaces. In general, this gives me access to many more open files in workflow-related groups. In my opinion, Mission Control still needs some improvements, and I understand it doesn't work for everyone.


What am I missing? Are there other techniques that can help me (us) live without windowshading? Can anyone find information about what the HI designers have in mind, where they are going?

2.66 GHz Intel Core i5-OTHER, Mac OS X (10.7)

Posted on Apr 28, 2012 1:51 PM

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Jan 9, 2014 5:37 PM in response to Hen3ry

I do not thing this discussion HAS run it's original course. I'm a web designer and have been using Macs since 1993. I rely HEAVILY on windowshading as I often have 10-15 windows open while working on a project. It is absolutely a huge time waster to not have windowshading during a project like this.


Thankfully I found this discussion and am trying out Deskovery and WindowMizer (this one with success so far). I yelled a big "HURRAY!!!" after being able to windowshad again after almost 5 years or so without it (after Unsanity fell of the face of the earth.)


Apple I beseech you to PLEASE add back the window shade option. It was in previous Mac OS version 9 and you never should have gotten rid of it. How hard would it be to add back? My guess is not very hard. I do not like relying on separate apps for a functionality like this. It needs to be reincorporated. My guess is there are hundreds of thousands of designers who need this they just don't have the time to request it.


Dear Apple, I'm begging!!! 🙂


thank you.

Jan 10, 2014 1:31 AM in response to starlightstudio

I concur and have voiced this from the moment WindowShade was "disappeared" some years ago.


I've been a Mac aficionado since buying my SE in 1984 (upgraded from 2 mg RAM to 4 mb!). However, since the Apple Stores opened and the small locally owned Mac Stores mostly shut down, I've found that my needs are routinely ignored by Apple and my brand loyalty has all but disappeared. It's sad to think that Apple may soon go the way of so many other great companies who quit dancing with those of us who "brung them to the fair."


The WindowShade situation is but a symptom of a much larger problem. With great trepidation, I recently traded in my Iphone for a Samsung S4 which I find to be a far better handheld, albeint with a steep learning curve. One can do without Apple. Maybe, just maybe Apple will begin to "get it."


My recent (and ongoing) negative experiences with the Mavericks OS has caused me to wonder why I just spent $1500 on a new MacBook Pro and it's truly sad to think that this may be the last Mac I buy -- for all of the above reasons. My $.02.

Jul 24, 2016 5:05 AM in response to Hen3ry

I agree that window shading is a nice feature and really thing it should be a native feature – maybe added a few power features.


I used the WindowShade app in MacOS 8-9 and was happy to see that RGBWorld developed WindowMizer. Unfortunately it doesn't in the latest version work with 2 extra screens attached. But until it's fixed there's Deskovery that doesn't work quite the same but has an option to WindowShade windows.


Apple is trying to pull the same workflow onto all users – the Expose and Spaces features. It's a nice way to do things but won't work for all. Why? Some like their desktop crowded with lots of windows and don't mind 'the mess'. Some like their desktop organized with everything in it's own place. Yes... you can use spaces to keep your desktop clean but sometimes you need to work with a lot of windows in the same window without having to switch space. If your in the graph line of business you know what I mean. Or if you're a developer for the web...


So what I'd like was a feature kind of like iTunes option to minimize the window to a tiny little window and still have it shown on your main screen without getting in the way. Kind of funny that the Stickies app has a sort-stack feature... that automatically position the Stickies windows left and stacked...


We have dock for apps or windows and it's fine to launch apps but not very handy when you close lots of windows from one app... they are hidden. You can't see them... which mean you'll have to spend time to find them, open them and organize them.


I'd like to see a feature that automatically shrinks windows and automatically positions them on the top of the screen from left to right... or at the bottom of the screen from left to right or... keeping all windows visible so you can click them when you need to work with them... of course they would position themselves where you left them – so you know where the windows are going.

Oct 22, 2016 1:50 PM in response to Hen3ry

Well, there might not be a huge benefit from posting on this thread, but I'll send feedback as well, I promise :)

As a long-time KDE user, I'm trying to use a Mac, and finding it incredible how much more functional KDE is.

In this case, I have an application (JOSM) that allows to draw map data and has non-modal popup windows with some images of the surroundings. In KDE, I can position that window in one place, and doubleclick the titlebar to windowshade it - that way I can quickly see the image or have more area for the map data. When I un-shade it, the image window is in the exact same place I left it.

On a Mac it could be possible... if that dropdown in system settings offered a "shade" option. Which it does not.

How to live without windowshading?

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