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Aperture in macOS High Sierra...

Hi,


This is just feedback back to the Aperture community.


I updated my MacBook Air (2014) to the latest macOS 10.13, all seems good with Aperture. Adjustments look fine, loupe, importing, exporting.

If I come across any issues, I'll post back.


I do have a Mac Pro (2010 SSD w/ Apple RAID) to update. That'll wait until the WACOM drivers are released end of Oct.


I'm still waiting on a good alternative to Aperture...

Currently the ACD See app (although well spec'd for Windows) has very good potential. Currently there is a beta for Mac users.

I will still check in on Capture One / Lightroom (?7) on occasion.


ATM Aperture is still working (for now) 😎

Posted on Sep 26, 2017 5:48 AM

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Nov 18, 2017 3:53 AM in response to Robrodrigo

It may be too late to get Aperture 3.6 now. You can only update to Aperture 3.6, if you already own an Appstore version of Aperture. It needs to show in your Purchase history at the App Store, otherwise you need the help of Apple Support to obtain the update, if they are still willing to help.

See this User Tip: Updating to Aperture 3.6 After the Release of Photos

Dec 3, 2017 4:18 PM in response to Eau Rouge

Thanks for that. Here is report.


EtreCheck version: 3.4.6 (460)

Report generated 2017-12-04 07:55:58

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Runtime: 5:06

Performance:Below Average


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Problem:Other problem

Description:

Aperture will not close.


Hardware Information:

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2013)

[Technical Specifications]-[User Guide]-[Warranty & Service]

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro10,2

1 2.6 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-3230M) CPU: 2-core

8 GB RAM Not upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

Handoff/Airdrop2: supported

Wireless: en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 46

iCloud Quota: 3.59 GB available


Video Information:

Intel HD Graphics 4000 - VRAM: 1536 MB

Color LCD 2560 x 1600


Disk Information:

APPLE SSD SM256E disk0: (251 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

[Show SMART report]

EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted> [EFI]: 210 MB

(disk0s2) <not mounted> [APFS Container]: 250.79 GB


USB Information:

USB20Bus

hub_device

Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

USB20Bus

hub_device

hub_device

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

USB30Bus

Seagate Expansion

Expansion disk2: (2 TB)

Database Drive (disk2s1 - Case-sensitive Journaled HFS+) /Volumes/Database Drive : 2.00 TB (954.98 GB free)

Seagate Expansion Desk

Expansion Desk disk3: (5 TB)

EFI (disk3s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <not mounted> [EFI]: 210 MB

Backup Drive (disk3s2 - Case-sensitive Journaled HFS+) /Volumes/Backup Drive : 5.00 TB (1.75 TB free)


Thunderbolt Information:

Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus


Virtual disks:

Macintosh HD (disk1s1 - APFS) / [Startup]: 250.79 GB (144.09 GB free)

Encrypted: Yes (Unlocked)

Physical disk: disk0s2 250.79 GB (144.09 GB free)

(disk1s2) <not mounted> [Preboot]: 250.79 GB

Physical disk: disk0s2 250.79 GB

(disk1s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 250.79 GB

Physical disk: disk0s2 250.79 GB

(disk1s4) /private/var/vm [VM]: 250.79 GB

Physical disk: disk0s2 250.79 GB


System Software:

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 (17B1003) - Time since boot: about 12 days


Gatekeeper:

Mac App Store and identified developers


Kernel Extensions:

/System/Library/Extensions

[not loaded] com.seagate.driver.PowSecDriverCore (5.2.4 (26840) - SDK 10.4)[Lookup]


/System/Library/Extensions/Seagate Storage Driver.kext/Contents/PlugIns

[not loaded] com.seagate.driver.PowSecLeafDriver_10_4 (5.2.4 (26840) - SDK 10.4)[Lookup]

[not loaded] com.seagate.driver.PowSecLeafDriver_10_5 (5.2.4 (26840) - SDK 10.5)[Lookup]

[not loaded] com.seagate.driver.SeagateDriveIcons (5.2.4 (26840) - SDK 10.4)[Lookup]


System Launch Agents:

[not loaded] 8 Apple tasks

[loaded] 156 Apple tasks

[running] 124 Apple tasks


System Launch Daemons:

[not loaded] 38 Apple tasks

[loaded] 164 Apple tasks

[running] 128 Apple tasks


Launch Agents:

[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2016-10-15)[Lookup]

[running] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2016-10-15)[Lookup]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-09-28)[Lookup]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (? 78ff3cea 72ac4dde - installed 2017-11-11)[Lookup]


Launch Daemons:

[running] com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2016-10-15)[Lookup]

[running] com.adobe.agsservice.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2017-09-22)[Lookup]

[not loaded] com.apple.installer.cleanupinstaller.plist (? 1963bf56 0 - installed 2017-11-22)

[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-10-14)[Lookup]

[loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-10-23)[Lookup]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2016-01-09)[Lookup]

[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (Shell Script e3fefdd2 - installed 2017-09-06)[Lookup]


User Launch Agents:

[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2016-10-15)[Lookup]

[loaded] com.dropbox.DropboxMacUpdate.agent.plist (Dropbox, Inc. - installed 2017-08-16)[Lookup]


User Login Items:

Google Chrome Application

(/Applications/Google Chrome.app)

iSkysoft Helper Compact Application

(~/Library/Application Support/Helper/iSkysoft Helper Compact.app)

Dropbox Application

(/Applications/Dropbox.app)

iTunesHelper Application (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-01)

(/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

1Password Helper URL SMLoginItem - Hidden (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-08)

(/Volumes/com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots/Backups.backupdb/[redacted]/2017- 12-03-121954/Macintosh HD/Applications/1Password.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/2BUA8C4S2C.com.agileb its.onepassword-osx-helper.app)

1Password Helper URL SMLoginItem - Hidden (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-08)

(/Applications/1Password.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/2BUA8C4S2C.com.agilebit s.onepassword-osx-helper.app)

1Password Helper URL SMLoginItem - Hidden (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-10-16)

(/Volumes/Backup Drive/Backups.backupdb/[redacted]/2017-11-01-000248/Macintosh HD/Applications/1Password.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/2BUA8C4S2C.com.agileb its.onepassword-osx-helper.app)

1Password Helper URL SMLoginItem - Hidden (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-08)

(/Volumes/com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots/Backups.backupdb/[redacted]/2017- 12-03-151920/Macintosh HD/Applications/1Password.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/2BUA8C4S2C.com.agileb its.onepassword-osx-helper.app)


Internet Plug-ins:

Silverlight: 5.1.41212.0 (installed 2016-03-08)[Lookup]

QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-10-26)

JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 151 build 12 (installed 2017-11-11)Check version

AdobeAAMDetect: 3.0.0.0 (installed 2016-10-15)[Lookup]


3rd Party Preference Panes:

Java (installed 2017-11-11)[Lookup]


Time Machine:

Skip System Files: NO

Mobile backups: ON

Auto backup:NO - Auto backup turned off

Volumes being backed up:

Macintosh HD: Disk size: 250.79 GB Disk used: 106.70 GB

Database Drive: Disk size: 2.00 TB Disk used: 1.05 TB

Destinations:

Backup Drive [Local]

Total size: 5.00 TB

Total number of backups: 71

Oldest backup: 4/2/17, 04:40

Last backup: 2/11/17, 15:02

Size of backup disk: Adequate

Backup size 5.00 TB > (Disk used 1.15 TB X 3)


Top Processes by CPU:

30%
WindowServer

13%
kernel_task

4%
mds

3%
Finder

2%
helpd


Top Processes by Memory:

1.09 GB
kernel_task

361 MB Google Chrome Helper

223 MB Google Chrome

187 MB Finder

171 MB Google Chrome Helper


Top Processes by Network Use:

Input Output Process name

32 MB 25 MB mDNSResponder

3 MB 2 MB netbiosd

3 MB 3 MB Dropbox

797 KB 5 KB helpd

0 B 86 KB SystemUIServer


Top Processes by Energy Use:

63.12 helpd

15.82 spindump

15.72 WindowServer

7.90 mds


Virtual Memory Information:

1.72 GB
Available RAM

176 MB Free RAM

6.28 GB
Used RAM

1.55 GB
Cached files

1.17 GB
Swap Used


Software installs (last 30 days):

Evernote: 6.13 (installed 2017-11-04)

1Password: 6.8.4 (installed 2017-11-08)

Java 8 Update 151: (installed 2017-11-11)

Microsoft PowerPoint for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Microsoft Outlook for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Microsoft OneNote for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Microsoft Excel for Mac: (installed 2017-11-15)

Kindle: 1.21.1 (installed 2017-11-20)

OneDrive: 17.3.7078 (installed 2017-11-28)


Install information may not be complete.



Regards,
​Rob Neave

Sep 27, 2017 9:58 AM in response to Gary O'Kane

Great news, I'm someone else still using Aperture, tried a few others but I keep coming back to Aperture.

My iMac is too old to run Sierra, but I was hanging off updating my Mac Book Pro to 10.13 until I heard I could still run Aperture on it.

I store a lot of Aperture exported folders and projects on external hard drives, would I still be able access them when the file system on my Mac Book Pro is changed with High Sierra ?

Sep 27, 2017 1:39 PM in response to Forrest Jerome1

léonie is correct about your Mac… it will eventually die and/or become useless. This is how I decided to deal with the issue:


My “working” Aperture computer is a 2009 Mac Pro which reached end-of-life 1-2 years ago (Apple stopped making replacement parts). I run it on Yosemite to avoid the few minor problems that Aperture has with more recent OS’s. Last year, I bought a used 2012 Mac Pro that I use for all my other work — it is now running High Sierra. I use “Carbon Copy Cloner” to copy an updated version of my Aperture library to the new computer every few days (CCC is fantastic!). I don’t do any edits on the new computer, but my Aperture library is available for reference, plus this copy acts as another backup. If needed, I can install Yosemite on the newer computer and use it as a “back up” computer for Aperture if/when my other computer dies.


I am slowly migrating my photos to Lightroom on the new computer, but want to complete a huge project of scanning/editing ~50,000 old family photos (from 1885 to 2003) in Aperture before I use Lightroom exclusively. This project will take ~2-3 more years to finish, so hopefully one, or both computers will still be operational. After that, I will simply use Aperture as an archive and use Lightroom for all my future (digital camera) work.


Finally, I also have been exporting a copy of my final edited jpegs to the “Photos” app on the newer computer. Photos — or some future version of the software — will probably be around as long as Apple exists. I periodically give my family members an updated copy of the Photos library. The Aperture and/or Lightroom libraries will simply die after I stop using them. No one will want to deal with those programs, but the Photos app is used by all my family members. This should help assure that the photos out-live me!


The 2012 Mac will probably be at “end-of-life” in the next year, or so. The 2009 Mac is easily the longest I have ever used a computer. However, I can’t imagine using either computer 5 years from now. You’ll have to face the final demise of Aperture at some point! You don’t want all your photos to be lost because you didn’t migrate to a “living” program!

Sep 28, 2017 1:22 AM in response to John M. D.

Hi John,


Although my current EOS cameras / RAW will decode under the current Aperture, the new EOS cameras are not decoded. Bear in mind, if you are going to update your camera (RAW) soon.


I'm sure you have annotated, sorted and curated your images like me over the years. I have used Aperture from the beginning. I am now importing new files (and exporting old files) as referenced, placing them into folders by year and event, so hopefully the next DAM software can pick up.


I know I will have to move my images to a safer 'boat'.


I still remain disappointed at Apple for discontinuing Aperture.

Sep 28, 2017 8:19 AM in response to In_between_dreams

Hi, Aperture doesn't like my Olympus OM-D E-M1 II 'orf' RAW files so I have to run them through the Adobe DNG Converter first, not a great problem just an inconvenience. Sierra and High Sierra do recognise them so I could use them in Photos etc. but Aperture is not updated to see them.

My iMac is a 2009 model, and is still running fine, I've stripped the software down and just run the basics on it including Aperture so it does run relatively fast. Hopefully get a few more years out of it.


John

Sep 30, 2017 12:44 AM in response to Gary O'Kane

I wonder why Apple don't sell Aperture to another developer?


I bought GraphicConverter 10 for batch renaming and find it to be an incredibly powerful app that does all sorts of magic things! Has a great 'auto' fix plugin too called Xe8472 which has really helped my scanned stuff.


To David Strait.... 50,000 pics sounds daunting. I was delaying scanning my old boxes of photos because it was just taking too long on my Nikon flat-bed scanner. After a couple of years of doing nothing, I bought a Fujitsu ScanSnap iX500.... not as good scans as you'll get off a professional flat bed, but for most of my holiday snaps it's been absolutely perfect, and meant the difference between getting them digitised or leaving them in the box...😁

600 dpi setting (top) works great, and it flies through the scanning! Good luck to you.

Sep 30, 2017 8:19 AM in response to Duchy777

Duchy777,

I have been working on the 50,000 old photos for ~15 years — I just work on it periodically when I want to. That way it becomes more of a hobby rather than a chore. I bought a Nikon film/slide scanner when I started the project (they longer make the scanner) and use a flatbed scanner for the photos with no film. I also have a ScanSnap iX500 that I use for document scanning — it is an amazing scanner! I have scanned all my parent’s and grandparent’s letters and postcards to preserve for future generations (plus current important documents to get rid of all my office “paper”).


Scanning the old photos is actually not a huge part of the time I spend on the project. Most of the time is spent gathering information for photos, identifying the people, location, date, adding a description, then adding keywords so the photos are gathered in “smart galleries.” I will typically have from 5 to 15 galleries per year, depending on how many photos are available for that year.


I include all this information in the photo so I can locate the photos on a map, by date, person, etc. Aperture adds the “face names” as keywords on export — which is one reason I want to finish the project in Aperture. All this “imbedded information” makes the photos independent of a specific photo program. Any decent photo DAM will use the embedded location, date, description and keywords. I use the old letters to help determine all this information, then write a yearly narrative of family events. All of this is interesting to me, so it makes it more of an enjoyable hobby than a chore. There are many different “chores” to complete this, so I don’t get bored doing one thing for a long period of time. I just complete one year at a time so I cycle through these various chores every couple months. I have learned a great deal about my parents, grandparents, etc. while completing this project. The photos have much more meaning to me after I went through all this. Also, my kids can have this as a permanent record of their heritage. They can look at a photo of a “stranger” and it will now mean something to them.


Anyway, my point is that preserving the photos can actually be an enjoyable hobby if you enjoy doing the kind of family research I am into. If that is not your “thing,” scanning the photos in a quick and easy manner — like using the ScanSnap — is a fantastic way to easily preserve photos that may otherwise be lost in a shoebox in the basement!

Sep 30, 2017 8:42 AM in response to David Strait

Hi David,


That sounds like an amazing project and I admire your dedication. You're creating a treasure trove.


I don't have old heirloom photos, just thousands of "snapshots" taken when I started out with photography in the days of film and prints. They're mostly rubbish from an artistic point of view, and it's when I admitted that I realised a ScanSnap would be fine for my "work"..😁


Rubbish as my photos are, at least I can now share them with people who are interested on iPads, phones, TVs.... they're not just sat in the box and never seen.


I would love to do something like you are doing.... but I don't have the material to justify it.


Good luck with your project. You should probably consider not upgrading MacOs or your computer until you've finished!


Cheers.


Forgot to mention... have a look at GraphicConverter 10. They've been around almost since Macs were invented, and I was amazed at what it can do.... I do not have any link to them by the way!

Sep 30, 2017 3:12 PM in response to Gary O'Kane

I have a rather big library of Aperture files (5 TB) with some 350,000 photos.

My new way is using Capture One 10: it is an ideal replacement and or addtion to Aperture. It reads the libraries perfectly, leaves the originals in their place. Which means, I can still use the same photo in Aperture and in CaptureOne.

CO10 has great tools on raw files. This made me change my workflow totally on raw. There is so much more in a raw file than jpeg, that the disadvantage of the space it uses is acceptable. I am using the Canon 5MKIV.

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