Aperture in macOS High Sierra...

Great discussion - I absolutely, positively, hate hate hate Photos. I still use Aperture [so far on Sierra] on my Mini, iMac and MacbookPro. So far so good. I have too many images on too many harddrives and my plan is to start going through them [most are in a variety of Aplibraries, and some are duplicated too much] and delete as much as I can and save the RAW or improved versions to TIFF to a separate drive until I decide what can replace Aperture. I use MacPhun Luminar [and Noiseless, Tonality etc] to work on photos and have PSElements but haven't used it for quite some time. Given the reports that High Sierra doesn't destroy Aperture, I'll probably upgrade when I need to = I really don't see the need to do it now, Sierra works fine for me.

Sounds like the plan to go thru and save best images in 'original' form is best while continuing to use Aperture until something comes along. Thanks to all for the discussion and explanations.

Yes, it does perfectly. This is quite a relieve for me, as it means, even, if the Aperture software does not work, the libraries can be opened.

CaptureOne 10 is a pretty good DAM, very similar to Aperture. The software is very much RAW oriented. It is much better than Aperture ever was in respect to work on your photos. I changed completly to raw, as this gives me much better photos.

There are, though some points which i am missing (and many other user too) coming from Aperture. No stacking is maybe the most important. But they are adding to the software and there is hope that this might come in the next version. Slight other things: double-clicking on a thumbnails opens the viewer picture, but not the reverse. (not going back from viewer by double-clicking to the browser) But you can easily define a key for doing it: N is my work-around for this.

CaptureOne does not support to big libraries. I have some really big ones in Aperture. So you have to change your habits in work on smaller libraries. I would say 10000 to 20000 photos is ok. As this is also a problem for converting Aperture to CO10, it means, i have to make the libraries smaller by exporting parts into separate libraries.

That is great news about Aperture and High Sierra. I have been holding off doing the upgrade until I read that Aperture was compatible, so thank you to everyone here! I have a huge number of photos (126,000) in Aperture and I dread the day when I have to switch over to Lightroom. I don't want to get on the Adobe treadmill of paying a monthly fee for the rest of my life for their Creative Cloud. And shame on Adobe that if you do buy a standalone version of Lightroom, they will not provide you with any updates. Aperture has served me fine for many years, and I have yet to find anything else that comes close for my particular workflow.

All imaging software will have it's quirks and benefits.

I personally find working in the Aperture space more enjoyable. I know I will change to another DAM someday.

I have used Capture One in a pro studio, great software. I do try Lightroom from time to time and that's my decision made again and again (not for me).

I do see other DAM software on the horizon, Affinity mentioned doing a DAM awhile ago (still waiting), 'ACD See' looks to have potential and today I see 'On1 Photo RAW', again looking good.

nigbo wrote:

Yes, it does perfectly. This is quite a relieve for me, as it means, even, if the Aperture software does not work, the libraries can be opened.

How did you do this? I tried using On1 Photo Raw 2017 to open a small (less than 300Gb, 1300 images) Aperture library in MacOS 10.12.6 with no luck. What's your secret?

Herwig,

Thank you for your reply.

I'm going to give your advice a try. First, I plan to backup my Aperture library.

Do you suppose that I am using Sierra rather than 'High' Sierra might make any difference?

I don't think this makes any difference. You also don't have to back up your library, as Capture One is reading only the library.

But one thing is important: the files are not transferred to the CO catalogue. They stay in the aperture library.

This also means: you do not copy your files and waste space. But you must keep your aperture library at the same place as when importing. So also store a catalogue from CO10 in the same folder with the same name so you have it together.

Normally I include the files in CO10 in the catalogue. (as I did with Aperture) But this is not what the import from Aperture is doing.

Thanks for the update. I am waiting until my wacom drivers are updated, too. Meanwhile, for an Aperture replacement, try Capture One Pro. Its a great replacement to Aperture. You can try a 30-day free trial. Works very similarly to Aperture and you can adjust the editing tabs to work almost exactly like Aperture. Good luck!

nigbo wrote:

Just use the menue item under Files: Import Catalogue>ApertureLibrary...

Look for your catalogue to import and choose and start importing.

This works for me without any problems.

Herwig

I have tried in several ways to get ON1 to open an Aperture Library. So far I have had no luck in doing so. I am using ON1 Photo Raw 2017 (v.11.6.3844) and macOS 10.12.6.

First of of all, I see no "Import Catalog" option under Files. My ON1 software does not seem to recognize my Aperture Library. I tried adding a 'Cataloged Folder'. I even dragged my Library into the 'Drop Your Folders Here to Catalog' with no positive result. My Aperture Libraries are Managed not Referenced.

I'm not sure what I doing wrong, but importing my Aperture Library to ON1 isn't working.

Thanks for your help anyway. I do appreciate it.

Jerry

nigbo wrote:

Sorry, it seems we have a misunderstanding.

Herwig

No biggie! Glad we got it straightened out. I think that Capture One may be one Aperture alternative I haven't yet explored.

Thanks again!

FWIW - I still have 150,000 images in Aperture that I don't have a great migration plan for, so I was gratified to see your post. Thank you.

If it helps you, on a day-to-day basis I moved to CaptureOne Pro. Tried LR for 6 months in 2016... it just didn't click with me (I know 'everyone' uses it), so have been using C1P for over a year. Pretty happy with it.

I updated to High Sierra and now the Supplemental update. Last night I was working with Aperture importing scanned photos and creating a slide show (it's great for slide shows).... and it crashed on me throwing a memory dump on the screen. I'm running it on a mid-2011 iMac with 8 Gig of RAM. Never had that happen before but I'm hoping to limp along with Aperture for a while. It's perfect for me. Sad to see it go one day.

It crashed in the middle of working on a project. I was working on creating a slide show from imported files. It just closed and after a few minutes the memory dump came up on the screen with an option to re-start Aperture. It's possible I just need more memory, but it doesn't seem like it should crash like that. Maybe High Sierra handles some memory functions differently than previous versions of macOS.

Just thought I would update: I have Aperture on my iMac running High Sierra. I think it is actually running much better than under Sierra - in the past I'd be looking at images and it would skip ahead one or two every now and then...not a biggie but irritating. Other things work just fine. I do have MacPhun's Luminar and use it frequently and since I have Lightroom and PSElements [on computer, not online] it would work with those two as a plug in but works fine with Aperture.

So I am going to wait a bit longer before I move = in the meantime I am going to be using my time reviewing and upgrading older ApLibraries and trashing anything that absolutely doesn't need saving = I tend to keep too many images but I know they are not all wonderful...Time to cull.

Thank you for posting this info. I will update to High Sierra as soon as I'm done with a project i'm working on that uses my Aperture photos then I will try it on my late 2015 27" iMac. I have also been looking at ACD see . I like much of it and it is similar to Aperture in a number of ways but what troubles me is that it has been in development for quite a while and there is very little feedback on it so I'm wondering if it will actually ever come out. I wish you the best and thanks again.

Ron