Really and honestly DELETE my Gmail deleted email in Mac Mail…

Not exactly. ON android, attempting to delete an eMail the standard way results in it being 'Archived' and not deleted. This is a guess, but it's possible that your Mac Mail program is doing the same, but not remiving the All Mail entry when adding the Archived folder entry.

If that is the case, you may be able to see all of the Mail you 'deleted' in the Archived folder and periodically delete them permaneantly using a browser.

That's Gmail. It is set to keep all of your email, whether you delete it or not, in the All Mail folder.

Honestly, how do you expect Google to mine all of your data if it lets you delete your old email?

Mail may be the only client that shows you the All Mail "filter" from Gmail.

I tried setting up Gmail the same way, but I don't think it works the way we expect it to.

Their "client" is their web interface, which is the only place I know of to remove them.

Gmail isn't true IMAP, so it's got some flakeyness, which I suppose could be programmed into a client, but I doubt Apple would waste time coding specifically for Gmail. They've been trying with Exchange/Outlook and that has been a tremendous failure.

The iPad and iPhone use a different system.

1957Goldtop wrote:

That's not true at all... Within Gmail it deletes it permanently (i.e. it's nowhere to be found including "All Mail") with the "Move the message to the Trash " and "Immediately delete message forever" enabled. So their own client has a way to do it. Apple has a way to do it on the iPad and iPhone. The only place I can't get it done is Mac Mail and I'm just hoping I'm missing a setting somewhere.

You're not, that is how Gmail works, if you want to empty the All Mail folder you do it on the website, not the client (you can not see the All Mail folder on most clients, Mail excepted) And you can suppress the display of the All Mail folder if it bothers you.

Yes, this is annoying. The following works - I just tested it.

In your Mac Mail preferences:

Gmail > Mailbox Behaviors :

In your Google Gmail settings:

Forwarding and POP/IMAP

With the above settings, delete a Gmail mail item on the Mac. Then, while still in Mac Mail, choose Mailbox > Erase Deleted Items... > Gmail... If you turn on Auto-Expunge above, it will force messages to archive.

When you quit Mac Mail, the item you deleted will now disappear from the Google Gmail server too, in All Mail, and Inbox.

Here is the Mac OS X hints article from Fall 2011 that discusses this fix on older releases of OS X.

Google IMAP – Mail not Deleting Message

Google IMAP – Mail not Deleting Message (2)

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