superdrive firmware update 2.1

is there a way to uninstall firmware updates? this update seems to have killed my superdrive. it won't accept disks. i would reboot, but i wouldn't be able to insert my install discs. any advice?

macbook pro, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Jul 5, 2007 3:01 PM

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Jul 9, 2007 7:30 PM in response to iVmichael

This might be a red herring, but the 17' monitor is not listed in the system requirements box for this update.
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/superdrivefirmwareupdate21.html
It could be that the drive in the 17' boxes is different or that Apple simply forgot to list them.

The drive on this MBP 17" is
MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-85J
Firmware Revision: FBZ8

I have not updated it because I have read this thread and have become suspicious.

I hope Apple works this out - things like the new Safari and BootCamp are beta, and we are careful, but a firmware update is something that is very serious when it does not work.


Dual G5, MacBookPro 15, MacBookPro 17 Core2Duo Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Jul 9, 2007 11:30 PM in response to jon bear

With something like this, an Apple employee would never post anything.

An Apple employee with such a problem would open a bug with whatever bug reporting system they have there. If he's really concerned, he might add a link to these threads to show that this is urgent. He (or she) would never post here, as that could be an admission that can later be used in court.

If we ever hear anything from Apple, it would be from the PR department. They might have the engineer post here (after reviewing his post by a lawyer), but they might also just issue a KB article.

To sum it up, this requires reproduction by some QA to TEST department, then a fix by some developer(s), then verification of the fix by that same QA or TEST department, then packaging of the solution, talking to the lawyer, and talking to PR. Then the technical writers compose the KB article, verify them with the engineer (who by now has gone to another project), fix the KB article, and post it.

All this takes time. I don't think we're going to hear from Apple for at least two weeks.

Jul 10, 2007 8:57 AM in response to synp

at least they are aware of the problem. Talked to an agent this morning again and she said that I am not the first today calling regarding this problem in Germany. They proposed a drive exchange at an Apple Service Partner, but I am still convinced that Apple will come up with a solution to reflash the firmware and get it back to working state by issuing a fix package - hopefully!

MBP CD 2.16 GHz Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Jul 10, 2007 9:18 AM in response to synp

Agreed that in a project managed shop, all the steps you mentioned would be followed... and rightfully so.

These threads all have a second purpose though, besides fixing the problem. And that is communication. We all know about the lawyers and the PR talking heads. These threads are calling for Apple to treat us not as numbers on a sales report, but as people. And with respect for the effort that it took many of us to pay the premium price for what really boils down to an Intel based laptop with a unix-like OS.

There have been many companies that have issued products, software, etc. that have proven faulty. The difference in perception regarding those companies comes from those that jumped right and did "damage control" and those that stuck with the silent treatment. A prominent printer manufacturer comes to mind over some of their all-in-one devices that simply quit working the first time a cartridge change took place. People were asking questions in forums around the world... but got only silence from the company. I only buy HP and Canon printers now.

Like many here, (I suspect,) I was a PC user since my first 286 machine. When the intel based Mac's came out, I waited for the first round to hit the market... sort of like the first year of a new car model... I always wait for the second year to see what flaws popped up the first year. So here's my brand new, (in April,) MBP 15" core 2 duo. Shiny... pretty... and now can't burn a cd!

The printer manufacturer I mentioned above ended up with class action lawsuits against it. I think I read a post in these forums where someone already mentioned that idea against Apple for this problem. Now come on... is it really necessary to have to go there? If Apple came out right now and said, yeah the firmware update caused problems and we're working on a fix. I would sit patiently and wait because I know they have the resources to figure it out. Or present a recall notice to the public. I believe the prevailing idea in business today is to do nothing, simply because it doesn't cost anything to do that. Wait long enough and the ferver and anger dies down. They loose some customer base but hey, new ones are switching to Mac daily and they already have the money from those that drift away, so what the heck.

The sad part of all this... it's not just Apple. It's our whole business society. And bottom line there is that businesses are run by people, so in fact, we're doing this to ourselves.

Jul 10, 2007 9:45 AM in response to snikpmup

My MBP always says that there is no drive to update when i restart now. I've tried moving the folder to a different location but that didn't work. I thought if I change the path it would just stop. Could you just delete it? I haven't looked at my drive in the system profile or tried to use it since I updated. However, after what I've heard I'm hesitant to put a disc in my computer. A piece of advise for all though. After my last firmware upgrade (for the logic board I believe) my computer wouldn't turn on so I took it to apple. They have a utility that will take your computer back on firmware upgrade and then re-install the current one. It fixed my computer last time. I wonder if I can use it again for this one?

Jul 10, 2007 9:50 AM in response to Joshua0884

I notice that most of the drives listed here have a 3-number code such as UJ-857 while mine is 85F.

Here is my complete listing:

MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-85J:
Firmware Revision: FBZ8
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
Media: No

Regarding Apple support I would humourously add that Sprint just dumped 1000 customers for complaining too much 🙂
We have not reached that level yet. Let's hope Apple responds in a timely fashion - with perhaps even a repair patch for those of us who have drives that no longer work, so we don't have to return the machine for repair.

Dual G5, MacBookPro 15, MacBookPro 17 Core2Duo Mac OS X (10.4.10)

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