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Unable to restore Ipod

I have a 3rd Generation (I think) 20 GB IPOD. Recently when I wanted to select a song, or artist etc. It would let me go through the menus but no artist names songs,albums are available. I reset the ipod multiple times and then I connected it to my Itunes, it gave me an instruction that the ipod was corruped so I chose the restore option and it will not work. I have tried to let the battery go completely and reset the ipod. NO LUCK at this point and now the Sad Ipod face is on my screen and it is the only item that shows on the screen.

I connected to my DiskUtility option and tried to partition the drive, just like the discussion boards suggest and have still not been able to get past that because it freezes while partitioning.

A friend and I both have run into this issue recently and was hoping someone can help, it is strange how two of the identical models can have this issue just weeks apart.

Sorry for the long story folks please help!

POWER BOOK G4 IPHONE 1.0 Mac OS X (10.4.1)

Posted on Jul 12, 2007 2:10 PM

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Jul 13, 2007 9:18 AM in response to rumer908

I don't know if this will help you since I don't know why it happened, but somehow mine has come back to life. I kept trying everything I could find, could not change the drive letter because the ipod kept appearing then disappearing from the USB port and windows as it kept cycling through the steps. Then I tapped it against the desk on its side today and suddenly it appears in iTunes and even went through the software update and by some miracle everything is even still there even though it spent most of the week in disk mode since that was the only way it would charge in the wall. It may be a fluke since it's friday the 13th but the problem is solved for now...

Jul 13, 2007 10:09 AM in response to Mitch 751

I reviewed the information on the FSCK and will try to work it this evening. I tried erasing the HD like you had mentioned on another discussion and it cleared the memory but when I tried to partition it would not work. When I tried to update the Ipod with Itunes it gave me error 1429 instead of 1418.

Mitch why would both of these ipods from two seperate poeple die just weeks in between. They never have been connected to the same pc and show the same syptoms.

POWER BOOK G4 IPHONE 1.0 Mac OS X (10.4.1)

Jul 14, 2007 3:15 AM in response to rumer908

sorry for the late reply. at this stage, please find a window based PC and do a restore there, if failed then do the format instead

For Window computer
Go to folder “My Computer”
Hope you can see your iPod there and right click on the iPod
Choose “Format”. Ensure the settings are at “Default” and that “Quick Format” is not checked
Now select “Format”
Eject your iPod and do a Reset
Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”

Once it has been completed, try to connect it back with your Mac and do the Restore

Jul 14, 2007 3:30 AM in response to rumer908

I cannot believe this is happening to so many people !!My beloved and expensive iPod.... I have been working on for 3 days now. I am not giving in and will now try if I can find someone with a PC.
Apple support is of no help. And they want as much money for repairing my iPod as I paid for it 2.5 years ago. I am in a foul mood untill my iPod is working again.
By the way: when I use DiskUtility, it says it take 95 hours to erase the HD. Is it worth it ?

Jul 14, 2007 1:06 PM in response to Mitch 751

sorry for the late reply. at this stage, please find
a window based PC and do a restore there, if failed
then do the format instead

For Window computer
Go to folder “My Computer”
Hope you can see your iPod there and right click on
the iPod
Choose “Format”. Ensure the settings are at “Default”
and that “Quick Format” is not checked
Now select “Format”
Eject your iPod and do a Reset
Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”

Once it has been completed, try to connect it back
with your Mac and do the Restore


I have a 3G 10 Firewire Dock ipod it does not connect to PC I need more help please.

Jul 14, 2007 5:28 PM in response to acguerrero

For Mac computer
1. Open the disk utility, hope your iPod appears there (left hand side), highlight it
2. Go to Tab “Partition”, click either “Delete” or “Partition”, if fails, skip this step and go to 3
3. Go to Tab “Erase” , choose Volume Format as “MAC OS Extended (Journaled), and click Erase, again if fails, skip it and go to 4
4. Same as step 3, but open the “Security Options....” and choose “Zero Out Data” before click Erase. It will take 1 to 2 hours to complete.
5. Eject your iPod and do a Reset
6. Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”

Jul 14, 2007 7:09 PM in response to rumer908

My iPOD (30G model) is also having the same problem. It started while I was travelling (this week) and the iPOD said it was corrupted and needed to be restored via iTunes. I managed to do a successful restore on July 13th on the second try and thought my problems were over. It also appeared to install an new software version on the iPod. Now all I get is the Apple screen, and regular "clicking" from the iPod. I tried resetting, reformatting, recharging, etc, but nothing is working here either. Now my computer (Gateway FX running XP) doesn't even see the iPod when its connected! Anyone have any other suggestions?

Jul 14, 2007 7:17 PM in response to usanewfie

If a sad iPod icon or an exclamation point and folder icon appears on your iPod’s screen, or with sounds of clicking or HD whirring, it is usually the sign of a hard drive problem and you have the power to do something about it now. Your silver bullet of resolving your iPod issue – is to restore your iPod to factory settings.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60983

If you're having trouble, try these steps at different levels one at a time until the issue is resolved. These steps will often whip your iPod back into shape.

Make sure you do all the following “TRYs”

A. Try to wait 30 minutes while iPod is charging.
B. Try another FireWire or USB through Dock Connector cable.
C. Try another FireWire or USB port on your computer .
D. Try to disconnect all devices from your computer's FireWire and USB ports.
E. Try to download and install the latest version of iPod software and iTunes
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
For old and other versions of iPod updater for window you can get here
http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=7369
F. Try these five steps (known as the five Rs) and it would conquer most iPod issues.
http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/five_rs/
G. Try to put the iPod into Disk Mode if it fails to appear on the desktop
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651

If none of these steps address the issue, you may need to go to Intermediate level listed below in logical order. Check from the top of the lists to see if that is what keeping iPod from appearing on your computer in order for doing the Restore.

Intermediate Level

A. Try to connect your iPod with another computer with the iPod updater pre-installed.

B. Still can’t see your iPod, put it in Disk Mode and connect with a computer, instead of doing a Restore on iPod Updater. Go and format the iPod instead.

For Mac computer
1. Open the disk utility, hope your iPod appears there (left hand side), highlight it
2. Go to Tab “Partition”, click either “Delete” or “Partition”, if fails, skip this step and go to 3
3. Go to Tab “Erase” , choose Volume Format as “MAC OS Extended (Journaled), and click Erase, again if fails, skip it and go to 4
4. Same as step 3, but open the “Security Options....” and choose “Zero Out Data” before click Erase. It will take 1 to 2 hours to complete.
5. Eject your iPod and do a Reset
6. Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”

For Window computer
Go to folder “My Computer”
Hope you can see your iPod there and right click on the iPod
Choose “Format”. Ensure the settings are at “Default” and that “Quick Format” is not checked
Now select “Format”
Eject your iPod and do a Reset
Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”
In case you do not manage to do a “Format” on a window computer, try to use some 3rd party disk utility software, e.g.“HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool”.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=501330&tstart=0

C. Windows users having trouble with their iPods should locate a Mac user. In many cases when an iPod won't show up on a PC that it will show up on the Mac. Then it can be restored. When the PC user returns to his computer the iPod will be recognized by the PC, reformatted for the PC, and usable again. By the way, it works in reverse too. A Mac user often can get his iPod back by connecting it to a PC and restoring it.
Tips
a. It does not matter whether the format is completed or not, the key is to erase (or partly) the corrupted firmware files on the Hard Drive of the iPod. After that, when the iPod re-connected with a computer, it will be recognized as an fresh external hard drive, it will show up on the iTunes 7.
b. It is not a difficult issue for a Mac user to find a window base computer, for a PC user, if they can’t find any Mac user, they can go to a nearest Apple Shop for a favor.
c. You may need to switch around the PC and Mac, try to do several attempts between “Format” and “Restore”
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2364921&#2364921

Advance Level

A. Diagnostic mode solution
If you have tried trouble shooting your iPod to no avail after all the steps above, chances are your iPod has a hardware problem. The iPod's built-in Diagnostic Mode is a quick and easy way to determine if you have a "bad" iPod.
You need to restart your iPod before putting it into Diagnostic Mode. Check that your hold switch is off by sliding the switch away from the headphone jack. Toggle it on and off to be safe.
Press and hold the following combination of buttons simultaneously for approximately 10 seconds to reset the iPod.
iPod 1G to 3G: "Menu" and "Play/Pause"
iPod 4G+ (includes Photo, Nano, Video, and Mini): "Menu" and "Select"
The Apple logo will appear and you should feel the hard drive spinning up. Press and hold the following sequence of buttons:
iPod 1G to 3G: "REW", "FFW" and "Select"
iPod 4G+ (includes Photo, Nano, Video, and Mini): "Back" and "Select"
You will hear an audible chirp sound (3G models and higher) and the Apple logo should appear backwards. You are now in Diagnostic Mode. Navigate the list of tests using "REW" and "FFW". The scroll wheel will not function while in diagnostic mode. For further details on Diagnostic mode can be found at http://www.methodshop.com/mp3/ipodsupport/diagnosticmode/
Try to do the 5in1, HDD R/W and HDD scan tests. Some successful cases have been reported after the running the few tests under the Diagnostic mode. In case it does not work in your case, and the scan tests reports show some errors then it proves your iPod has a hardware problem and it needs a repairing service.

B. Format your iPod with a start disk
I have not tried this solution myself, I heard that there were few successful cases that the users managed to get their iPod (you must put your iPod in disk mode before connecting with a computer) mounted by the computer, which was booted by a system startup disk. For Mac, you can use the Disk Utility (on the Tiger OS system disk), for PC user, you can use the window OS system disk. Try to find a way to reformat your iPod, again it does not matter which format (FAT32, NTFS or HFS+) you choose, the key is to erase the corrupted system files on the iPod. Then eject your iPod and do a Reset to switch out from Disk Mode. Reboot your computer at the normal way, connect your iPod back with it, open the iPod updater, and hopefully your iPod will appear there for the Restore.

If none of these steps address the issue, your iPod may need to be repaired.
Consider setting up a mail-in repair for your iPod http://depot.info.apple.com/ipod/
Or visit your local Apple Retail Store http://www.apple.com/retail/
In case your iPod is no longer covered by the warranty and you want to find a second repairing company, you can try iPodResQ at your own risk
http://www.ipodresq.com/index.php

Just in case that you are at the following situation
Your iPod warranty is expired
You don’t want to pay any service charges
You are prepared to buy a new one
You can’t accept the re-sell value of your broken iPod
Rather than leave your iPod as paper-weight or throw it away.

You can try the following, but again, only do it as your last resort and at your own risk.

Warning !!!! – It may or may not manage to solve your problem, and with a risk that you may further damage your iPod, which end up as an expensive paper weight or you need to pay more higher repairing cost. Therefore, please re-consider again whether you want to try the next level

Last Resort Level

1. . Disconnecting the Hard Drive and battery inside the iPod – Warning !! Your iPod warranty will be waived once you open the iPod.
In Hong Kong there are some electronic shops offering an iPod service for Sad iPod, the first thing they do is to open up the iPod’s case and disconnecting the battery and the Hard Drive from the main board of the iPod. Wait for 5-10 minutes and reconnecting them back. The reason behind which I can think of is to do a fully reset of a processor of the iPod. In case you want do it itself and you believe that you are good on fixing the electronics devices and have experience to deal with small bits of electronic parts, then you can read the following of how to open the iPod case for battery and HDD replacement (with Quicktimes)
http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/index.cfm?page=Video/directory.html

2.Press the reset button on the Hard Drive inside the iPod – Suggestion from Kill8joy
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2438774#2438774

Have I tried these myself? No, I am afraid to do it myself as I am squeamish about tinkering inside electronic devices, I have few experiences that either I broke the parts (which are normally tiny or fragile) or failed to put the parts back to the main case. Therefore, I agree with suggestion to have it fixed by a Pro.

2. Do a search on Google and some topics on this discussion forum about “Sad iPod”

Exclamation point and folder and nothing else
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3597173#3597173

Exclamation point and folder and nothing else
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2831962#2831962

What should I do with my iPod? Send it or keep it?
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=469080&tstart=0

Strange error on iPod (probably death)
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435160&start=0&tstart=0

Sad Face on iPod for no apparent reason
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=336342&start=0&tstart=0

Meeting the Sad iPod icon
http://askpang.typepad.com/relevanthistory/2004/11/meeting_thesad.html#comment-10519524

Sad faced iPod, but my computer won’t recognize it?
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2236095#2236095

iPod Photo: unhappy icon + warranty question
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2233746#2233746

4th Gen iPod Users - are we all having the same problem?
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2235623#2235623

Low Battery, and clicking sounds
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2237714#2237714

Sad faced iPod, but my computer won’t recognize it
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2242018#2242018

Sad iPod solution
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=412033&tstart=0

Re: try to restore ipod and it says "can't mount ipod"
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=443659&tstart=30

iPod making clicking noise and is frozen
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2420150#2420150

Cant put it into disk mode
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3786084#3786084

I think my iPod just died its final death

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3813051

Apple logo & monochrome battery stay
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3827167#3827167

My iPod ism’t resetting and isn’t being read by my computer
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4489387#4489387


I am not suggesting that you should follow as well, but just read them as your reference. You are the person to make the call.

Finally, I read a fair comments from dwb, regarding of slapping the back of the iPod multiple times

Quote “This has been discussed numerous times as a 'fix'. It does work, at least for a while. In fact I remember using the same basic trick to revive Seagate and Quantam drives back in the mid to late 1980's. Why these tiny hard drives go bad I don't know - could be the actuator gets stuck in place or misaligned. Could be the platter gets stuck or the motor gets stuck. 'Stiction' was a problem for drives back in the 80's. Unfortunately the fix can cause damage to the platter so we temporarily fix one problem by creating another. But I know of two instances where a little slap onto the table revived the iPods and they are still worked a year or more later.”UnQuote

Jul 14, 2007 9:10 PM in response to usanewfie

I have conducted the following and no progress on two 4 generation ipods.

Attempted to partition both on pc and mac both ipods allowed the capability and neither responded after two hours of repartition.

They both were erased two hour waits and now their is no menu just sad faces and the plug back into wall display. Plug into wall and nothing but error and sad face comes back.

Attempted resetting of batteries by removing battery cable (opened Ipod)
Now back to same screens no response.

Attempted to use older version of Itunes and no progress either!

I guess its the graveyard for these two Ipods. I want to wright a letter and ship these to apple. I am not sure how is it that both can fail in just two weeks from each other. I am concerned with the siituation. Mitch you did what you could. It has been over week of countless hours and research I conceded and think we are at a stand still.

POWER BOOK G4 IPHONE 1.0 Mac OS X (10.4.1)

POWER BOOK G4 IPHONE 1.0 Mac OS X (10.4.1)

POWER BOOK G4 IPHONE 1.0 Mac OS X (10.4.1)

Unable to restore Ipod

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