Do not replace your smart phone with an iPhone yet...

Did you read my quote above from Jobs at the Macworld 2007 Keynote Speech????????

Also, I have sent feedback.

I am asking for everyone who reads this to do the same. That is all. If some of you have Admin Assitants who do all of your scheduling for you, great. Still help us out, send feedback.

When I was in the Apple Store talking to a "Guru" about switching from my Blackberry to the iPhone, I was assured that there was nothing the iPhone couldn't do that the Blackberry did. This is flat-out wrong and should not be the marketing pitch they promote unless it is true.

So, once more: Please everyone, send Apple feedback concerning the lack of a solid calendar as well as file transfers (which I have yet to touch on concerning the woeful lack of basic "Smart" phone featrues!! Which again, Jobs did indeed bring up in his speech.)

Did you read my quote above from Jobs at the Macworld 2007 Keynote Speech????????

Yes - did you read mine???????????????


*+_Steve Jobs did not call the iPhone "the best smart phone ever" - end of story._+*

"After today, I don't think anyone is going to look at these phones [SMART PHONES] in the same way,"
- Steve Jobs Keynote Speech 2007 Macworld

And I suppose "leapfrogging" over the technology also means dropping standard functionality.

I mean really, this is pretty stupid, don't we agree?? With everything it can do, we shouldn't expect to be able to email a calendar event?!!?!?!?

Please just send feedback requesting it. I am going to do my best to keep this thread at the top of the forum until this goal is met.

Thanks, Allan, for your help!!! 🙂

This IS NOT THE SAME as calling the iPhone "the best smart phone ever" as you have wrongly quoted Steve Jobs as saying.

I'll now do my best to get this thread locked or deleted.

Thanks for your continued help in making this happen.

This is a user to user help forum for technical support issues and questions, not for one's personal agenda and there is a feedback link for providing Apple YOUR feedback.

And I'm using this forum to solicit fellow users help in addressing a shortcoming.

This has really seemed to touch a sore spot for you, hasn't it, Alan? If you don't like the discussion, stop reading it. Or have your Admin Assistant read it for you.

I'm really glad you can show Jobs never actually said, "the best smartphone ever". I was actually quoting another user in this very thread. But since you so quickly jumped in, I felt compelled to follow up on it to see just what Jobs did say. And what he did say (as I've quoted) and what the Apple Store gurus say leads us to believe that Apple is convinced they have a great smart phone replacement.

Well, they don't. They could if they followed up on shortcomings.

I am trying to solicit support for such action.

Once more, thanks for you help.

I do imagine sooner or later this thread will get locked. Great thing about Forums is that new threads can be created. 🙂

And I'm using this forum to solicit fellow users help in addressing a shortcoming.

You should read the Terms of Use for these Discussions - which were provided and you agreed to when registering here - or have your Admin Assistant read it for you which never registers with the dim-witted anyway - so you probably shouldn't waste your time.

This has really seemed to touch a sore spot for you, hasn't it, Alan?

Yes because this is not what these Discussions are for - not for one's personal agenda and the solicitation of fellow users in addressing what is a shortcoming for YOU - NOT FOR EVERYONE. Have your Admin Assistant or any child over the age of 10 explain this to you. And if you choose to use my name in a post Deruk, spell it right.

And one returns posting the same stuff in a manner that is a violation of the Terms of Use, those posts will be removed also and one continues to do the same after being warned, one shall be banned from posting so you can take up your solicitation elsewhere.

I respect your opinion. It sounds like you need a heavy duty business oriented smartphone. The iPhone will not suit your needs. I suggest you return it and grab a Blackberry or Treo.

I disagree with lacking feature set. I am a business owner and father of four teens. I have found my iPhone to be the perfect PDA for me. I enter appointments during the day (Dentist, business meetings, etc). Drop it in the dock when I get home. It syncs to the iMac at home. We print a schedule for the week for the family. The kids know what they have to do and when. If they change the schedule on the family iMac it updates my phone. I guess it's the 'ultimate family smartphone' ?

Yes, I have some features I would L-O-V-E to see added. I have given apple suggestions and feedback on them. BUT...There are also cool features I didn't know I would need until I used them. As a business owner (and father) who gets 10-12 voicemails in a day sometimes...I flipping love the visual voicemail. No more waiting. Call it up, select the one you want to hear first. Trust me, after you have sat thru 8-10 mins of boring voicemails to learn your son's soccer practice was rained out and he needs a ride home..well, it's a really nice feature. Yes, Edge can be a drag but anyone who has used the internet on other smartphones really appreciates how well the Safari works.

All in all I would honestly give the iPhone an 8.5 out of 10. BUT...considering this is the first version of Apple's very first cell phone, I have to give them props for doing so well. It makes me wander what the iPhone will look like in revision two, three, or five!!

Jay in NC

Moderators: Please note that user Allan Sampson is being derogatory and inflamatory to me, Derek Schaible, in an unprovoked fashion.

From the Terms of Use:

Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. *Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well*.

And you are absolutely correct. Here is exactly what Steve Jobs said about the iPhone at Macworld 2007:

"We've advanced the state of the art in every aspect of design. *It's the ultimate digital device*. So what should we price it at?"

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote/

Constructive feedback is not calling the iPhone "a toy and thats all" which is an insult to many or most iPhone owners or not including a feature that YOU want is "stupid". Not even close to be considered as constructive feedback. Sorry but the manner in which you provided feedback regarding the features that YOU want is not constructive.

*_Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer._*

And constructive feedback does not include soliciting other users to join in your quest to turn the iPhone into a Blackberry. The iPhone was not targeted at Enterprise and may never. If this is what you want, the iPhone is not for you.

Please read this very carefully.

"It's the ultimate digital device" is NOT the same as "the best smart phone ever".

Once again, - "It's the ultimate digital device" is NOT the same as "the best smart phone ever".

Nor did he say, the iPhone is the "best Enterprise Device ever". The iPhone is not an Enterprise device - never pretended to be. If this is what you want and need, you made a VERY poor decision.

LOL!!!!!!

I must concede you are correct on every account!

How foolish of me to fail to notice that a Smart Phone is not a Digital Device :-P

LOL!!!!!

This has truly become an entertaining discourse!

You have to remember that from the start the iPhone was not aimed at the business market, it was meant for consumers. Now I do agree that when it first came out it was a little expensive for consumers but Apple never intended the iPhone to get into the hands of business people.

That's not the impression I get when I listen to Jobs's Keynote Speech when he introduced it.
Let's read it:

10:41am - "Today Apple is reinventing the phone. How does this stack up? Let's look at the competition..." Treo, BB, E62, Q... comparing mail, contacts, calendars, web... "Let's see the web, we tried to make it look as good as we could. And this is what you get." Comparing music...

"After today, I don't think anyone's going to look at these phones the same way agaoin. (SIC)"

How are we to construe such statements? Clearly Apple is eyeing Blackberry and Treo as the competition. Why the resistance to ask for a simple addtion which would put the iPhone on the same playing field?

All the iPhone is truly lacking is a better calendar and the ability to transfer files.

Let's ask for it. After all, it is reasonable to expect these features in the "Ultimate Digital Device", isn't it?

Thanks for your support!

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