No AU-instruments showing, but validation is Ok.

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No AU-instruments showing, but validation is Ok.

I have installed Logic Studio on same system partition as some other DAWs I have used this far; Cubase 4 and Live 6.

I have some softsynths installed both as VSTs and AUs. Among others, these are NI Komplete, IK Multimedia Sonik Synth/Sampletank, Arturia, Gmedia, reFx and Korg ones. These work perfectly in both Cubase and Live.

The collection of softsynths were validated when installing Logic 8, but none show up when setting up a track or in the Library. This really seems to be a mystery to me.

I would like to add that all of my AU effects plug-ins works as expected in Logic. But no softsynth. Why should this be so?

Should I repair and install the whole system, or is this just a simple little mistake on my part?

In advance, thank you for answering.

P.s. I would like to further add that I can't start to use Soundtrack Pro because of the fact that the AU validation in Soundtrack won't complete. The AUval stops suddenly, and in spite of repeated restarts of AUval/soundtrack pro the validation won't be completed.

MacPro 2,66, Mac OS X (10.4.10), 7gb ram 1,6tb disc space

Posted on Sep 22, 2007 5:55 PM

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Answer 1

chucknkd

Level 1

35 points

Sep 22, 2007 6:14 PM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

just for the heck of it, try running the AUval manually in logic while its open. i think its in the 'file' or the top left 'logic studio' menu. have it rescan all of them again.
does it give you a warning at all the there are invalid AU plugs or instr before completely opening logic?
are you upgrading from another version of logic?

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Answer 2

Justin C

Level 6

8,700 points

Sep 22, 2007 6:15 PM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

Try manually validating these from the AU Manager, maybe after hitting "reset and rescan all". Any chance you are new to Logic?

J

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Answer 3

Sep 23, 2007 1:15 AM in response to Justin C

Hi and thanks for answering!

Well, I am new to Logic, since I have not used Logic since it was version 1.6 on a Mac Performa 400(Lc2).Things have changed since then...

Yes, I have tried to run the AUVal manually, but all seems ok when in Logic as all validation gets validation success. (In Soundtrack Pro no change,I'm afraid.)

When I discovered that none of my AU instruments were showing, I bought the VST to AU adapter from FXpansion. The reasoning being that I knew the vst versions were all working well in the other DAWs.
But no AU instruments showing still.
Something must be wrong?

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Answer 4

Sep 23, 2007 1:42 AM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

Just an idea but Are the AU versions the most recent versions? (ie Universal binary) - if not, that would explain them not showing

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Answer 5

Bee Jay

Level 6

10,900 points

Sep 23, 2007 1:52 AM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

You are looking in the instruments plugin list, not the FX plugin list, aren't you?

Are you saying your instruments plugin list is totally empty?

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Answer 6

Sep 23, 2007 6:06 AM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

Are you using Instrument Tracks, and not Audio or Aux tracks?

Instrument plugins will not show up in anything but Instrument Tracks.

(As Bee Jay said)

Message was edited by: Matt Mayfield

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Answer 7

Sep 23, 2007 10:24 AM in response to A_Double__

Hi, and thanks for your question.

Well, I guess the versions are the most recent AND Universal Binary.
But I will take another look and report back (I am now on a different location than my music mac; I'll be back).

But, should one/a few (of 180 or so plugs)be enough to stop all third-party softsynths loading?

AND all of the third-party AU-efx plugs loads just as expected; none of the
third - party softsynths.

P.S. All plugs are original and licensed to me. This also includes iLok and Syncrosoft dongled versions.

Message was edited by: The Tall Silent Screamer

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Answer 8

Sep 23, 2007 10:15 AM in response to Bee Jay

Hi and thanks for your thoughts.

The instruments that are not showing is my third party plug-ins. The included Logic synths all show up (the Evb, EXS and so forth).

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Answer 9

Bee Jay

Level 6

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Sep 23, 2007 10:34 AM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

SO when you click on and instrument channel's input slot, and you see the list of Logic instruments, is there an "AU Instruments" subfolder at the bottom? Is it empty?

Can you access your third party stuff from Garageband, Live or another AU host?

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Answer 10

Sep 23, 2007 1:52 PM in response to Bee Jay

Hi and thanks for bothering.

When I click on the instrument channel input slot the third - party plugs only are represented by a grey'ed "Other".

I can access the AU-softsynth in Live 6 just fine and flawless.

Otherwise I'm a vst - man myself... (Cubase and all that)

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Answer 11

Sep 23, 2007 2:03 PM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

I would like to add that I have repaired permissions (Diskwarrior)and also defragmented (iDefrag) the system Logic has been installed onto.

I have a Superduper copy of my system as backup on another partition/volume, but thats a copy of the system that worked well before Logic was installed.
If Logic malfunction is due to system (OS copy) gone bad in some way, I guess I would have to perform reinstall. Not workwise a very attractive alternative, I feel.

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Answer 12

Bee Jay

Level 6

10,900 points

Sep 23, 2007 2:38 PM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

Strange. You say you can run the AU tool, and the plugs are validated, but simply don't show up in Logic at all?

What about GB4, if you have that, because that should use the same AU engine as LP8. Do your plugs show up in that?

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Answer 13

Sep 23, 2007 2:58 PM in response to Bee Jay

Oh, I'm afraid I only have the version 3.04 that came with iLife06(?).

And it wont start now...
Validating AUs chrashes it, it seems.

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Answer 14

Sep 24, 2007 12:52 AM in response to Matt Mayfield

Thanks for your interest.

+"Are you using Instrument Tracks, and not Audio or Aux tracks?"+

Yes.

+"Instrument plugins will not show up in anything but Instrument Tracks."+

Yes and when they don't it feels frustrating, and that is also why I can tell that the included Logic instruments do show up.

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Answer 15

Sep 24, 2007 1:28 PM in response to The Tall Silent Screamer

Hi

Is it really necessary to move AUi's or wrapped VSTi's from their respective folders to find if any of them are not meeting Logic's demands?

Or should I perform a save & repair system installation, reinstall Logic and hope that none of my settings will be lost?

There really is nothing on this subject of making third -party plug-ins work in Logic apart from the basic validation process described on page 252-254

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