ATI Radeon 9600 Pro and QuickSilver G4

I just put that card in my computer(got it for christmas) I have a quicksilver 867Mhz (2001). It worked fine for me. I installed the software drivers off the CD in the box. Shutdown my computer, swapped out the Nvidia Geforce 2(32mb) and put the Radeon in. Started up with no problems. I'm waiting on another DVI-to-VGA adapter to try running 2 monitors. The only thing i've noticed is the right side of the screen flickers abit running 1600 x 1200 @75Hz, but if I put it at 70Hz it works fine.. The picture on the screen looks alot clearer with the new card in.

Hi Rodney, I'm new to this G4 Quicksilver and Radeon 9600 PRO issue and would be grateful of your best tips.

On installing the card first time - no problems, but on starting up the G4 the next morning I got absolutely nothing on screen at all. My supplier assumed the card had malfunctioned and sent me a new one. I got nothing from this one too. I had reinstalled my previous card, which fortunately still worked, but didn't experience the scenario some have reported where after reinstalling the old card the new one would work. However I fell I digress.

I have seen a fix which suggests taping up a couple of pins which has the effect of guiding the G4 into accepting the card in its 4X mode but was interested by your ROM fix. Where exactly did you download the fix from. I've been trying to find it on the Radeon site but with no success.

Simon

Hi Rodney, I'm new to this G4 Quicksilver and Radeon
9600 PRO issue and would be grateful of your best
tips.

On installing the card first time - no problems, but
on starting up the G4 the next morning I got
absolutely nothing on screen at all. My supplier
assumed the card had malfunctioned and sent me a new
one. I got nothing from this one too. I had
reinstalled my previous card, which fortunately still
worked, but didn't experience the scenario some have
reported where after reinstalling the old card the
new one would work. However I fell I digress.

I have seen a fix which suggests taping up a couple
of pins which has the effect of guiding the G4 into
accepting the card in its 4X mode but was interested
by your ROM fix. Where exactly did you download the
fix from. I've been trying to find it on the Radeon
site but with no success.

Simon

I bought a Radeon 9600 PC/Mac 256Mbyte board at the end of December. The Canadian Apple web store doesn't list it, so I did not see all the bad reports (I bought it directly from ATI). I install the latest ATI software, shut down the computer, and installed the ATI card. The system booted and both the CRT and 22" Apple LCD (with the Apple DVI to ADC adapter) worked fine until I put the system to sleep. No video on either monitor. I was able to get the system to work once, by booting with just the CRT, then connect the LCD, but never again. I put back the original graphics board and all was OK.

ATI blamed the DVI to ADC adapter, so I had Apple send another but it did not help.

ATI sent another card, which never gave any video on either monitor.

The third card arrived today and worked only once. Time to get a refund.

Hello Malcolm,

I have the same machine as you and I bought the card around the same time from the UK Apple Store. I didn't realise until after I bought the card that I would need an Apple DVI to ADC adapter so I bought one from a local Apple Centre.

When I got the card I removed my old GeForce 3, forgot to pre-install the drivers for the ATI, installed the new card, connected the adapter to my Studio Display and started it up. It worked without the driver software although there were some serious redraw issues, I connected to the ATI site and downloaded the current set of drivers, installed those and restarted.

Its working as well as I can expect it to, although I only have the one monitor connected. I don't let my machine sleep by itself although the display does, I have a third party USB2 card installed that doesn't like sleeping with devices that use it for their power supply.

I do manually put the machine to sleep and as long as I don't have the USB2 scanner attached the machine wakes as well. The display power light goes out when its asleep but the USB devices attached still seem to work. I have one of those bendy keyboard lights that stays on even when the Mac is sleeping, its probably something to do with the adapter.

Maybe I've just been very lucky, the ROM version on my card is the same as the one mentioned earlier in this thread (I'm not at my machine to check it).

I would do the same as you suggested and return the card for a refund and look for another solution. Its a shame though as there aren't many cards available for our machines any longer, and it was one that gives it a little more life.

Regards Alan

Quicksilver G4 Dual 800 Mac OS X (10.4.2)

I do manually put the machine to sleep and as long as
I don't have the USB2 scanner attached the machine
wakes as well. The display power light goes out when
its asleep but the USB devices attached still seem to
work. I have one of those bendy keyboard lights that
stays on even when the Mac is sleeping, its probably
something to do with the adapter.

The DVI to ADC adapter does not handle the display power button, so it does not pulse in sleep. In deep sleep (fans off) the USB will still have some power so the keyboard or a mouse click can wake the machine. The mouse LED should be off, so moving the mouse should not wake the computer. Your keyboard light must be just hooked to the USB power pins. With a bit of electronics inside, it could have been made to turn off in sleep, ala the mouse LED.

Maybe I've just been very lucky, the ROM version on
my card is the same as the one mentioned earlier in
this thread (I'm not at my machine to check it).

Apparently the ATI card is just at the power limit of the AGP in some Quicksilver models. The last card probably only started the first time I tried it because the Mac had been off all night in a cold room.

I would do the same as you suggested and return the
card for a refund and look for another solution. Its
a shame though as there aren't many cards available
for our machines any longer, and it was one that
gives it a little more life.

If ATI comes up with a dual DVI 9800 with the extra power connector, I might try one. Otherwise I will live without core graphics for a few years until I get a new Mac.

Lucky you that you got in touch with the customer "service". Here in Europe they never seem to answer the phone, and on the web one cannot register a "ticket" because of a problem with their server.

I have a G4/867 and ever since I installed a 9600 the screen is blank. Things are slowly getting desperate....

iMac G5 20, G4 QS 867mhz, iBook G4, PB 190, and a Pentium that I haven't switched on in months... Mac OS X (10.4.3)