Leopard and Sleep

Hi Dale,

Yes it is a KP as described in your ref Doc. Thanks for the links I will work though the points listed.

As the panics happen in sleep mode I will try the obvious first and change the screen saver from the rather complex but handsome "electric sheep" to a simple .jpg viewer in case it is a software incompatibility with Loepard. Screen savers run in user space but you never know. These KP have only showed up since Leopard install and all the rest of the kit ram/devices etc have been stable in use and previously for 1.5 + years.

Do you know how to tell when the panic happens from the log ? it might be informative to know if the KP pops on sleep, during sleep or on wake.

I will run the hardware test as well next opportunity I have.

Thanks for the hints lets see how it goes.

Cheers

Gannett

Hi!
Very few here can interpret those logs. The ones that can haven't been posting much lately. It's like a foreign language to most of the rest of us!
Good Luck!
 DALE

Same problem here over the last 2 days. Not much I can add other than that it wasn't happening until the 10.5.1 update. I've also re-atatched a load of other usb devices over the last few days but haven't been able to track it down to any of them.

Having the same problem with my 20" G5 iSight iMac. No wake up and lots of fan noise.

I also got an error with an external firewire drive connected when waking up from sleep or rebooting - an error that supposedly can't be fixed with the HD utility. Fixing the drive with DiskWarrior didn't stop this.

On a whim that the drive was causing the sleep problem, I turned it off. I still can't wake up.

This needs to be fixed ASAP as it didn't happen in Tiger. I'm not going to delve into kernel panic problems - that's Apple's job.

No wake up and lots of fan noise

Not sure if this is exactally the same issue as what we are listing here. This is a specific panic/"restart needed" on wake up. Most notably on systems that used to be trouble free but have this issue after installing Leopard.

To follow up on previous posts I have run hardware diags - long version and got clean bill of health, even replaced the on-board battery yesterday and still had another panic since.

This latest panic did gave a hint; I had been looking to determine if the panic was at the start of sleep , during or on wake up. Could not tell from the panic stack and was not previously seen as the panic was up on the screen when the picture was first visible. This time however the last screen saver picture came up then the grey panic screen wiped down. Iv'e not had a KP in normal operation but the activity on the screen leeds me to think that the KP happend on wake. Again the USB librarys show in the traceback.

So then folks were from here ??? Well let's see how you wake your Mac

I have this arrangment ..

G5 ---> White wired Mac Keyboard USB hub -> Kensington expert trackball
See on http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Mouse-Optical-Trackball/dp/B00009KH63 an expensive but comfortable device.

Sometimes I wake the Mac with a spacebar or return key and sometimes a spin of the trackball. This time it was was keyboard first then a spin the track ball. I had not tied the panic to either particular action but this time there was enough of a delay to have the screen ( 21' apple flattie) awake before the panic hit.

Is the USB structure of the device causing the wake significant ? Do first level devices ever cause the panic or is it tied to a hub/extender linkage issue.

Let us know what device do you wake you Mac with that causes ( sometimes ) a panic ?

Gannett

I'm using a wireless keyboard and mouse (Logitech S350 Mac), and it doesn't matter if I try to wake the computer up via keyboard or mouse - same thing. And all the time if the computer has been asleep for more than 15 minutes.

Absolutely bizarre stuff.

I'm also noticing some other problems lately too, but am unsure if related. Mounted volumes (such as .dmg files) don't show up on the devices list like they should. GRR!

i have the same problem with the 17" imac G5 (first generation)

zacharyous, try a

SMU reset. It controls sleep settings and others.

 DALE

{quote:title=Gannett wrote:}Not sure if this is exactally the same issue as what we are listing here. This is a specific panic/"restart needed" on wake up. Most notably on systems that used to be trouble free but have this issue after installing Leopard.{quote}

"No wake up and lots of fan noise" is exactly the problem this topic is about. See the original poster's post.

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Problem is still persisting. It's not related to any applications that are open when sleeping or which one is active as far as I can tell. I've tried every combination of quitting them and stuff that I can think of. It doesn't matter how the machine is put to sleep, it apparently doesn't have to do with the attached keyboard or mouse... I think it's purely an internal issue related to the machine itself.

I've been experiencing KP each time i shutdown, sleep or reboot my macpro. Everything was fine with 10.4.
I looked for answers since 10.5.1 release but nothing usefull came to me.

At last i start to feel less isolated 😉

I also use a s530 Keyboard and my KP reports seem to be OHCI related (that's USB controller right?).
It's a thing we have in common, maybe the source of issues. I'll try tonight to use a different KB.

let's keep in touch until we're fixed.

Xavier.

I plugged another KB to my mac last night, everything's back to normal !!!
looks like logitech s530 KB isn't leopard compliant, i hope it's just the logitech Control Center piece of software that is faulty.
Hope this will help.

I did an archive reinstall of Leopard and everything is hunky dory now. No sleep problems what so ever.

It may be related to the keyboard, but I disagree whether it is/isn't compliant. I think it is the Logitech driver itself, which no longer recognizes my mouse or keyboard.

Maybe I will have to try USB overdrive or other 3rd party solution to the keyboard/mouse driver issue.

George Curt Fiedler wrote:
I did an archive reinstall of Leopard and everything is hunky dory now. No sleep problems what so ever.

I've reinstalled Leopard multiple times on my PowerMac G5 (Late 2005) Dual-Core but without solving this problem.

Intermittently, it will still fail to wake from sleep, with a blank screen and then the fans running at full blast after about 30 seconds. The fans do not stop until a hard reset is performed.

I've lost data following one of these crashes, so I'm quite unhappy with the situation.

I used to think that it was a FireWire drive causing the problem, but now I'm not so sure -- the frequency of these "crash on wake, with loud fans" incidents is higher if the computer goes to sleep with a FireWire drive powered up and attached, but it still happens with no external drives connected.

Sigh...

..to add to the list of those affected: same problem on my G5 Dual 1.8 (spring 04).

symptoms as described here: no way to wake up, fans on full speed after a while.

I do not believe the problem to be hardware related in my case, for in pursuit to pin down some other installtion problems, I unhooked ALL periphreals, including a second internal hard drive. And did a clean install, reformatting the drive with the installation program, and trying this feature before adding any third party software.

I strongly believe this to be an incompatibility with some of the older hardware.

Anyhow, will not pursue to fix it, since I personally prefer not to put anything more than the monitor in sleeping mode for several reasons. Plainly for informational purposes, if it helps.

In case of my Powerbook 12"... no problems there, in fact none at all with leopard (ok, one freeware program), G5 was a catastrophe...

Dirk

Hello all. I have had similar issues with my Quad 2.5 Mac. Originally I suspected the external Western Digital MyBook Pro drives as the culprits. But after disconnecting them, I still had the Kernel Panics upon waking the system. The 2 drives were also originally connected via USB 2.0 because of problems with the drives, but now that both have had firmware updates, and are connected via Firewire 800, the problem still exists.

I recently noticed a few strange issues with my Logitech mouse. When I have the mouse in the charger and wake the system seems like when the problem happens more often. It is a logitech MX revolution. I am starting to think that the problem is associated with the LLC application that controls the mouse. I also had one instance when the system didn't crash, but the mouse stopped responding. The tracking and left mouse button stopped working, and only the right button would work. I had to restart the system to get it to work again.

A few other things I have noticed (Not sure if related)-- seems like a lot longer time for startup to complete. Also, caused a crash once when connecting an iPhone while the system was asleep... but this might have been just because the system wakes upon plugging in the iPhone. Also, system will not go to sleep on its own, but you have to force sleep the system. The screensaver will engage, and the monitor will sleep, but not the system. One other strange thing is that aperture will keep loading up every time the iPhone is plugged in, even after changing the prefs in aperture and quitting the application (This probably has nothing to do with the kernel panics). Seems like it doesn't want to remember the setting.

Just wanted to include all these recent issues just to see if any might be related to the system crashes/ kernel panics.


KMdez