autocad for new mac book 2.16 gig

I live in Italy but I'm American so I'm posting on the USA site for help. On September 21, 2007 I purchased a Macbook 2.16 Gig (in Italy) for my daughter who attends the 1st year of Architecture in Parma. The choice of Apple was natural as my husband and I have been happy Apple users since 1980. But we are not architects. We did not know that Autocad does not run on Macs.

My daughter came home 2 days ago saying she needs to run Autocad for school. But we discovered that there is no Autocad software compatible for her Macbook! We have been told (by Apple reseller here ) that Bootcamp (in Leopard) or Parallel or VM Fusion software will allow her to run Autocad. But other local Autocad resellers have said even with the above software Autocad will not authenticate on a Macbook.

PLEASE HELP! I don't want to spend more money on software like Leopard or Parallel or VM Fusion if in the end, Autocad will not run properly on the new Macbook 2.26 Gig. Is our only solution to buy another portable like a Dell or HP for one single Autocad application??? Seems impossible.

power book G4, Mac OS X (10.5), have 3 powerbooks in house.

Posted on Oct 30, 2007 4:04 AM

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Oct 30, 2007 9:46 AM in response to deborahanne

I am an architecture student too and my school wanted me to have AutoCAD but I found what I think is a much better alternative. The company Graphisoft has a program called ArchiCAD, which is excellent, and there is a rendering program that you can get with it call Artlantis. They offer a free student version of either the newest version which is 11 or the previous one, 10, which is the full program, but is just a one year license, that can be renewed each year while she is still in school.

The program is very easy to use and her work can be saved in AutoCAD format if needed.

Also, if she really does need AutoCAD, I have friends at school with me that have Macs and put AutoCAD on them via either Parallels of VM Fusion and it works fine for them.

Oct 30, 2007 10:19 AM in response to deborahanne

As an Architect, I use AutoCAD 2008 on my Mac Pro through Boot Camp, it runs with no problems.
I strongly advice against the use o Parallels or similar programs because they are OS emulators and for demanding software like AutoCAD there is a huge speed penalty and in the quality of the video output (I know it first hand, having used Parallels II).
What I would recommend is to go Mac OS 10.5 and run Windows (and AutoCAD) by means of Boot Camp, only limitations are RAM and HD size

Oct 30, 2007 11:26 AM in response to Adam Berkey

such an important distinction to make... yes Parallels runs using virtualization technology, not emulation.

I have seen professional firms use Vectorworks, and seems to be a pretty decent Mac compatible CAD program. However, if she is a student, she likely needs to run AutoCAD for her course of study, and rightfully so, since it is the defacto standard in the AEC industry.

Parallels does have somewhat of a performance hit, enough so that it might be a pain to use a heavy duty program like AutoCAD. She might want to try VMWare, which is much more efficient, and allows the use of both cores of the machine. Bootcamp, in the end, might be the better choice. I recently have upgraded 3 machines to Leopard and have Parallels running on two of them.

Initially, I tried to use Parallels 3.0 with the Bootcamp partition. It worked, but there were some major problems. Next I tried VMWare with the Bootcamp partition, and also had problems. Finally, I reverted back to Parallels just using the virtual disk image, and worked with no problem. I imagine, but did not try it, that using VMWare with just the virtual disk image would also be good. So it seems to me, that your two options are either Bootcamp or VMWare Fusion just using the virtual disk. I like Parellels and it works well for me, just that VMWare seems to be the superior performer. In all cases, MS Vista Business edition was used.

if they are going to do any 3-D or use lightscape / rendering programs, forget virtualization and just use Bootcamp. It is sort of a pain to have to reboot between OS's though and there is a great convenience factor to virtualization.

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Nov 1, 2007 8:20 AM in response to tsvisser

once again thanks to all who are replying. i think my daughter's autocad/revit work will be light, it's her first year. she said she saw someone ( a few weeks ago) using a mac with autocad and i told her to chase him down & find out how he did it. perhaps it was a downloaded bootcamp beta and a downloadable educational cad program as i see the exist.

i see both wm fusion and parallels have downloadable free 1 month trials - is that an option before buying leopard? and do i need a copy of windows installed on the macbook with these programs.? and what is the order if installation of all these programs???

i heard i need an "oem" version of windows too. i know oem means original equipment manufacturer so i assume that means i need to buy windows directly from microsoft?

life is fun in an incompatible world. mass confusion for a regular person like me, living in a very low tech country like italy.

Nov 1, 2007 11:58 AM in response to alarife

could you pleas tell me exactly what you run - leopard with bootcamp, parallels and a copy of microsoft os?? what version - windows XP?? i have never had to buy ms systems software so i'm stumped on where to go to get it. and i read somehwere it needs to be an oem version. i know oem means orignal equipment manufacturer so i assume that means i need to buy the op systems from ms, no copies, right? i tried reading the technical specs on the parallel and vm fusion websites but am still not clear on the ms os i need to buy for my daughters new macbook 2.16 ghrz Intel core 2 with mac osx 10.4.10. thanks.

Nov 17, 2007 5:50 AM in response to elvisLA

i am happy to report that my daughter's boyfriend successfully installed parallels, msxp and autocad. works very well too, as for the version i don't know, i only know it is suffucient for her needs at 1st year university architecture, and that was the goal.

thanks for everyone's help. now i have major keyboard problems on my macbook so i have moved to the macbook hardware discussion site to resolve the issue.

deborah from italy

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