Where are my Fonts in Fontbook ?

that's a very good question Marc. I have the same issue. I have done a clean install of Leopard, and installed all my fonts through fontbook, which crashed in the process. however, later i realised i had nonetheless installed all my fonts (as in, they show on my applications' fontlist), but fontbook keeps ignoring their existance, no matter how many times i ask it to install the missing fonts.

similarly, this has an impact on some OS X applications, such as the Calendar, which seems to be displaying a different helvetica on the icon.

any ideas about this mistery?

Marc, bonjour! My high school and college French classes were a very long time ago, but at least I remember enough to know that in your note "bibliotheque" must mean the Library fonts!

But I'm not sure exactly what your situation is. It seems, from your note, that, after you installed Leopard:
-In Word and AppleWorks, you see fonts stored in all three Fonts folders: the user Fonts folder, the system Fonts folder, and the Library fonts folder
-In Apple applications like Mail and iCal, you see only the fonts in the system Fonts folder, but in some other Apple applications you see some, but not all, of the other fonts.

Is this accurate?

You mention the Information Systeme of Apple menu, but not Font Book. Have you checked the
status of these fonts in Font Book? (It's in your Applications folder)

Je n'ai pas eu ce problème, mais dans ces forums il y a pas mal d'autres utilisateurs, qui ont mentionné des problèmes similaires. Malheureusement, je n'ai pas vu de solution efficace.

Est-ce que vous avez déjà utilisé l'outil "Livre des polices" pour valider les polices (menu Fichier > Valider la police)? Est-ce qu'il y a des doublons entre les polices?

Vous pouvez essayer à désactiver certaines des polices troublantes, et puis les réactiver. Si j'ai bien compris les discussions, cela marche dans certains cas.

I am not sure that I understand your answer - are you using Font Book (or the French system equivalent?) I followed most of Magnus' note, but I am not sure about "la police"!

Let's assume your fonts are in the correct folders, and something is wrong with Font Book. Try this:
-Quit Font Book
-Find the file YourHomeFolder/Library/Preferences/com.apple.FontBook.plist
-put the com.Apple.FontBook.plist in the Trash

Restart the Mac and see what happens.

If this doesn't help, we'll look at your Fonts folders next.

And if we need better communication, I'll get in touch with a friend who just went back to Paris and ask him if he will translate for us if we do this directly through email.

Bonne chance, mon ami!

sharon

It is not that I assume a crime has been committed, but "police" is "font" in French.

I suggested that Marc validates, checks for duplicates and deactivates fonts in Font Book, but as the fonts do not even appear, it will not help much of course.

Don't worry about your English; it's better than my French!

Have you tried a separate account - either the Guest account or a different one you might have set up, and see if the problem is going on there?

Here's what I would do next in your user account:

-Don't touch anything in the system fonts folder /System/Library/Fonts.
-Quit all your applications, including Font Book.
-Trash the Font Book plist (again).
-Working in the Finder:
- create a new folder on the Desktop and drag ALL your user fonts into it from ~/Library/Fonts.
- create another new folder and drag ALL the fonts from /Library/Fonts into it.
-Restart the Mac.
-Open Font Book so it will be forced to update and see that it only has those system fonts available.
-Use Font Book Preferences and set the Default Install Location to Computer.
-Go to your temporary folder on the desktop that has the fonts from the Library fonts. Double-click on the files (one at a time or many at a time, it doesn't matter) to install them. When they are all installed...
-In Font Book Preferences, change the Default Install Location to User
-Go to the other Desktop folder (that has your User fonts in it) and double-click on those so they will install.

Font Book will install copies of the fonts, so those desktop folders will still have fonts in them - throw the folders in the Trash.

Quit out of Font Book.

See if there's any change after all that!


(Marc - perhaps you'll take care of translating as necessary? Thanks for the note about "police" - I thought it must mean "font" because of the context, but couldn't relate it to any root or word that I knew!)

Une autre chose à essayer c'est de supprimer le fichier fb.db. Il se trouve dans le répertoire <votre nom d'utilisateur>/Bibliothèque/Application Support/Font Book.

Vous pouvez aussi vous loguer comme un autre utilisateur pour voir si tous les utilisateurs de ce Mac ont le même problème.

La conclusion inévitable est que le problème se trouve dans votre compte principal, mais où exactement?

Vous pouvez supprimer fichier après fichier et répertoire après répertoire dans <votre compte>/Bibliothèque. Malheureusement je ne sais pas dire lesquels des fichiers sont important pour le fonctionnement des programmes que vous avez installé. Le plus prudent est sans doute de les déplacer dans un répertoire temporaire. Avec cette démarche vous devriez pouvoir dire quel(s) fichier(s) causent le problème.

For English readers: the proposal is to move file after file from ~/Library to a temporary folder, to see which files causes a problem.

Magnus:
I had embedded a comment to you in a note to Marc, but I labeled it "Marc" (why did you both have to start with "M"?). Sorry -

I'm happy that I can recall enough French to read your notes even if I could never write back in French - and I did have trouble with "police"!

I am writing back to Marc in a different note, but perhaps you could translate. I'm concerned that what you're suggesting, which would be a good procedure in another situation, isn't good enough here, because his note says Font Book isn't even showing a "Computer" collection, just the other defaults. I think this is a serious problem that is not caused by a problem font but by a problem with Font Book. Unfortunately, it can't be reinstalled separately, and I think the best bet is a system reinstall at this point.

Marc:
Bonjour encore.

I think the Font Book you are using is very badly broken and can't be fixed. Moving fonts around will not help. If we find a way to make it work, we could not trust it to stay working. I am worried because your Collections are only All Fonts and French - no "Computer" (or whatever the equivalent is on a French system - the one that shows what's in the /Library/Fonts and /System/Library/Fonts folders).

I would re-install Leopard at this point if I had these problems on my machine, and I think that's what you should do, too.

Je suis désolé, mais je ne peux pas penser à toute autre chose.

After you have a fresh system and you start adding your own fonts, put in only a few at a time, and see if the problems start again.