Cropping and cutting pictures

Are the standard mask shapes and Instant Alpha the only tools in keynote for editing pictures? They prove inadequate and/or hopelessly time consuming if all I want to do is cut a specific item out of a jpeg - in PowerPoint, there are marquee and lasso tools which let you make the equivalent of an irregular shaped mask, or cut around the object you want regardless of background colour. Instant Alpha is useless when dealing with black and white photography, pencil sketches, faces on a neutral/fleshtoned background, etc. If the background has a hundred shades (leaves, for example) you'd need to spend hours with IA picking them out one by one. And no-one I know has a perfectly rectangular or star-shaped head, so that rules out Masks. Naturally, I'm finding exactly the same problem with Pages. Am I missing something? I thought by buying Keynotes and Pages I was eliminating the need to jump in and out of other programs - yet I'm having to use PowerPoint to make every simple picture edit, then jump through hoops to get those images successfully imported to Keynote/Pages.

iMac G5, Mac OS X (10.5), PowerPC, 2GB Ram

Posted on Nov 6, 2007 3:37 PM

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Nov 6, 2007 5:46 PM in response to macwryta

If you want to mask with a custom shape, there are a few ways to do it in Keynote.

If the object is roughly a standard shape, you can start by masking the image with an existing shape. Do this by creating the shape on the canvas, then drag the image onto the shape from the Finer or Media Browser. Then once the shape is masked, you can edit the path of that shape to fine-tune it. Double-click to edit the mask, then go to Format -> Shape -> Make Editable. Now you can edit the bezier path by adding and removing points (hold down option and click on the path to add points), and adjusting the bezier handles.

Another way to do this is to start with a free form shape on top of your image. Drop you image onto the canvas, then use the Pen tool (last item in the Shapes menu on the toolbar) to start drawing your shape, on top of the image. Once you're done with your shape, select it and the image, and choose Format -> Mask with Selected Shape. Once you've done this, you can still edit the shape using the steps above.

Note that masking can be combined with Instant Alpha -- you can Instant Alpha around a shape, then mask it closely with a shape instead of having to individually remove parts of the image far away from the object of interest.

Nov 6, 2007 6:52 PM in response to Brian Peat

Hmm. I guess our realities are indeed different. I thought I pointed out that "click and drag, click and drag" may be fine if one or two colours border your selection, but if the background is dozens or hundreds of colours, then you have to click and drag for each of those colours! It becomes worse if the background and selection share colours. In PPT, you just draw a line around the area you don't want (lasso) and hit delete.

Nov 7, 2007 5:37 AM in response to macwryta

ah, I had used the PPT tool a while ago, but the last version must have been better than previous. It sounds like it's sort of a mix of an instant alpha tool, along with an added lasso for removing big chunks of image. I guess I'm just really used to using Photoshop for any serious image editing that I don't find the instant alpha tool all that lacking, but I can see what you're saying.

Nov 7, 2007 10:16 AM in response to mflider

Precisely. 🙂 This is how I was doing it before Instant Alpha. The briefcase on this page (the faded one in the background)
http://www.makentosh.com/tipsfromtheiceberg/Blog/Entries/2006/2/27The_Case_of_the_Casecase.html

The MacBook Pro on this page
http://web.mac.com/makentosh/tipsfromtheiceberg/Blog/Entries/2006/3/23You_CAN_take_it_withyou.html
and this page
http://web.mac.com/makentosh/tipsfromtheiceberg/Blog/Entries/2006/3/15Time_for_the_MacBookPro.html

and these surfers
http://web.mac.com/makentosh/tipsfromtheiceberg/Blog/Entries/2006/11/16Duplication_done_rightright.html

were all masked in Keynote using the above technique before bringing over to iWeb.

Message was edited by: Kyn Drake

Nov 7, 2007 2:28 PM in response to macwryta

One more thing: If you're using Leopard, you can open the image in Preview, then under the Select toolbar item, choose "Extract Shape". This lets you draw a lasso around the object you want to extract, similar to the lasso tool in PPT, but much more advanced (it tries to be smart about finding edges). Then either save as a transparent png, or copy and paste the image to get it into Keynote.

The only disadvantage is that, since Preview gets rid of the pixels, you can't go back and restore the image from within Keynote.

(For more information about Preview's extraction tools, check out "Extracting an item from a busy background" in Preview's Help.)

Nov 7, 2007 7:32 PM in response to Brian Peat

Yes, the real plus in PPT for MAC (2004) is that the lasso tool can be used freehand - you blow the picture up to 400%, then draw around its edge - pixel perfect. The Masking pen tool doesn't give you a freehand option - is that right? The only choice is "join the dots" and then tweak around with them, and the "smooth" function turns all sharp corners into curves (not always what you want). So, I guess I still have to use Photoshop or PPT if I just want to draw a line around a shape I want to keep. Pity.

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