Leopard will not boot from Firewire HD

Hello,
The issue is this,
I have a Mac Mini G4 (M9687LL/A) and I am "trying" to install 10.5 on to a external firewire drive. The Drive is Acomdata 160GB Firewire dirve with a Partition Type of Apple Partition Map and is formated in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) So I boot off the Leopard install DVD and I install it to the firewire drive and all goes well. Then when I try to boot from this drive it will not boot off the FWHD. When I restart the mac and hold the option key to get the boot menu, I do not see the Firewire drive only the internal drive? So if someone can help me on this or is having the same issue let me know. Thanks

Mac Mini, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Nov 16, 2007 3:42 PM

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Nov 16, 2007 4:14 PM in response to boonerinc

Welcome to Apple Discussions!

Unfortunately, Acomdata's record on the matter isn't quite clean*:
http://www.macmaps.com/firewirebug2.html

My recommendation, swap out the hard drive case and put another one in its place around the hard drive that is known to be compatible. The only two companies I know of are http://www.macsales.com/ and http://www.cooldrives.com/

There may be others you can write to on the above FAQ*. The problem is not all Firewire nor USB drives are bootable.

Another thing you may be running into is that if you want to use the keyboard to startup from an external drive, you may need an Apple keyboard to be certain the C or Option keys work. Option key should work if you have the right keyboard:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106178

Finally, Time Machine is not a bootable backup, but does backup everything. Currently only Carbon Copy Cloner, and Apple's Disk Utility offer bootable backups of Leopard.

- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.

Nov 16, 2007 5:57 PM in response to nerowolfe

Nerowolfe,
You are correct. Essentially what my link shows is that each manufacturer has a choice of either installing firmware that is provided by the bridge board, or developing one of their own for their needs.
Unfortunately, most choose the latter, making it extremely different short of personal experience to know the bootable, and safe drives to use during a Mac OS X update from the ones that won't do either.

Message was edited by: a brody

Nov 16, 2007 6:02 PM in response to a brody

a brody wrote:
Nerowolfe,
You are correct. Essentially what my link shows is that each manufacturer has a choice of either installing firmware that is provided by the bridge board, or developing one of their own for their needs.
Unfortunately, most choose the latter, making it extremely different short of personal experience to know the bootable, and safe drives to use during a Mac OS X update from the ones that won't do either.

Message was edited by: a brody

As you may have noted, I always say a tested bootable clone now, after the failure of Silverkeeper to produce a proper bootable clone. If your clone doesn't boot, don't upgrade, would be my motto.
I used SuperDuper, but will probably switch to CC since SD has yet to be Leopard compatible.

Nov 24, 2007 5:48 PM in response to a brody

So I have a firewire drive enclosure that has been bootable since OSX 10.0. I have a Sawtooth G4 and it has been upgraded continuously since. I installed Leopard and now the firewire disk is no longer bootable. I put my old 10GB drive back in the system, installed on that and everything works from there. But it will no longer boot from that firewire drive. Anyone have any suggestions?

Nov 24, 2007 6:01 PM in response to karmat

Keep trying. I had to try 11 times to get one drive to mount. That was last week.
Yesterday I had major boot problems and took 7 hours to get things back to normal.

Try resetting your pram: press option-command-P-R simultaneously during startup and keep holding down these keys until you hear the startup sound TWICE.
Also try shutting down your computer and unplugging it from the wall as well as unplugging all peripherals. Leave it that way for at least 15-30 minutes (this resets the Firewire bus in the computer).

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