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External USB drives slow

Hi,

I recently purchased 2 Seagate Freeagent 500gb. I was copying files from my old external to the new one and it was going to take a ridiculously long time. So I checked into it and found the drives were showing up on the "USB Bus" in System Profiler and not the "USB High Speed Bus". This brought the speed to 12MB/s instead of 480MB/s.

Big difference. I played around with it, ejected all the drives then plugged in the Seagate's first and they went to the the High Speed Bus.

The problem is as soon as I restart they go back to the slow 12MB/s bus. I then have to eject them, and load them 1 by 1.

What gives? Anybody have any ideas?

Mac Mini 1.83 C2D, Mac OS X (10.5.1)

Posted on Nov 20, 2007 11:34 PM

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Feb 26, 2008 1:43 PM in response to Robert Stern

Great to see other people with this issue.

I am also using a Seagate FreeAgent Pro 320 GB external drive, and I am getting the slow USB problem as well.

One big note: I am not just getting slow speeds on that drive alone, but on everything USB including my iPhone.

A PRAM reset helps for a little while, and then it goes back to very slow speeds, tested using AJA KONA with speeds as low as 0.4 MB/s.

It is a pain in the neck to have to keep rebooting to have the issue fixed for just a little while, if at all.

Any help would be great! I will keep looking here and post any help I find.

Feb 27, 2008 4:32 AM in response to Robert Stern

From what I've heard, some external drives use some power saving mode that doesn't play nice with USB. Or rather, since the USB bus thinks it has lost the drive, it'll remount it in "slow-mode". This came up in some slashdot topic about the Seagate drives combined with Linux, but I suppose MacOS X could be prone to the same problem.

I've had a USB drive once, and that was slow as molasses, too. I prefer firewire drives for that very reason.

Feb 28, 2008 10:19 AM in response to Robert Stern

*Note that this pertains specifically to Seagate FreeAgent drives, but the problem may be similar on other manufacturers' drives. Check with your manufacturer to see if there is any way to disable power management or "sleep" on your external drive.

After struggling with this for quite some time on my FreeAgent 500GB USB drive, I've found that the fix for this is to set the drive's sleep timer to "never." When the drive puts itself to sleep, it consistently wakes back up attached to the Mac's low-speed USB 1.1 bus (not the high-speed 2.0 bus, where it should attach).

Unfortunately, and IMO altogether ridiculously, the Mac version of their FreeAgent Drive Manager software doesn't allow you to change that setting.

The only way to permanently fix this issue is to hook the drive up to a Windows PC (or drop into XP bootcamp, if it's installed on your Mac), download and install the Seagate FreeAgent Desktop software for XP, and use its Drive Manager utility to set the power management sleep timer to "never."

Note that the drive will be recognized in XP, but it'll come up as "UNKNOWN" if you've Mac-formatted the drive. This doesn't matter. The power management part of the utility is just changing settings for the enclosure, not for the actual drive itself.

Hope this info helps.

Mar 22, 2008 5:53 AM in response to Suhr

Suhr thank you for posting this, I used bootcamp to configure the drive to never sleep. It seemed to work for a very long time, however this morning when I turned on the computer I noticed that the drive had been set to use the slow USB port again... I'm not sure what could've caused this, I will look deeper into the matter and post my findings.
Is this fix still working for you?

May 18, 2008 9:16 PM in response to Chris Lackey

Just ran in to this myself this weekend...yuck. No USB device worked correctly on the high speed USB bus...iPhone, printer, hard drives, video camera, NOTHING; the other USB bus ("slow" one?) worked fine. I tried a bunch of stuff, repartitioning, changing USB ports, swapping hubs, etc.; none if it worked.

What finally DID work was following the directions in this article....

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303446

basically, unplug it from power and all peripherals for about half a minute....

External USB drives slow

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