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WiFi Disable = Hard Lockup!!

Hello,
Could anyone else please confirm that disabling WiFi under XP/Boot Camp on a Santa Rosa Macbook Pro causes a hard system lockup?!
I then have to re-boot using "Previously known good configuration" to get back to the desktop.
Its driving me nuts as the Wireless card seems to conflict with the Firewire bus (disrupting Firewire audio), plus also I'd like to be able to extend battery life, be able to run XP/Boot Camp on flights etc.

Thanks for your time guys.

Macbook Pro 15" 2.4GHz, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Dec 2, 2007 9:32 PM

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Jul 30, 2008 7:52 PM in response to jdonlin

Hi there all,
no I haven't lost interest in this topic - but have been way too busy to give it much attention for a while. Turning the WiFi radio off and disabling Kdbmgr make my XP set-up work ok for me though in the meantime.
For avoidance of confusion however, despite what Jdonlin (hello!) has said above, this issue is not exclusive to Broadcom cards - my MBP uses an Atheros AR5008 f'rinstance...

Aug 5, 2008 1:49 AM in response to Gr8h8m

I have the same pop/crackle issue in XP SP3. If you load up "Latency Checker" ( http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml) it becomes obvious that there's a real problem that Apple is not yet addressing.

There are multiple issues causing the latency. Nerds on the audio forums have almost completely eliminated it by doing the following:

1. Disable your wireless adapter
2. Kill the KbdMgr.exe process
3. Disable write combing in Display Properties, Advanced, Troubleshooting
4. Disable PowerMizer in the nVidia control panel

More information can be found here...

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/1961838-post3.html
http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=591

In my case, the wireless driver is the #1 culprit. This means that before I can listen to music, watch a movie, etc. I need to disable wifi or else tolerate pops and clicks every few seconds. Still seeking a better solution..

Good luck.
Randy

Aug 7, 2008 10:01 AM in response to Gr8h8m

Hi All,

i've got nothing much useful to add here except to say that i have the same irritating problems with my Macbook Pro as most here, but after reading silent_argus's post about certain programs starting the annoying latency stuttering problem i thought i'd add that on my MacBook Pro a combination of Firefox (2 or 3) and Windows Live Messenger usually starts the stutters off. especially if there's a high volume of Messenger traffic (two or three conversations at once will almost certainly bring it on fast).

this seems to be exclusive to Windows XP for me ... i've never had any problems with lockups or stuttering under OSX, but then i use Windows a lot more than OSX so the problems may be there and i've just not noticed them yet. now there's something to look forward to.

jamie.

MacBook Pro 17"
core2 T9300 2.5Ghz
2GB
GeForce5600
crappy broadcom WiFi

running Windows XP SP2 + OSX 10.5.4 via BootCamp 2.1

Aug 19, 2008 8:25 AM in response to holdypaws

Hi Randy,

i finally got round to running the DPC Latency checker. with Firefox 3, Live Messenger, Outlook Express and AVG Free running under XP SP2 the average Latency is about 2000us with spikes off the scale every so often.

with none of those programs running though the latency was ...exactly the same (even after a reboot, not just shutting them down). which is odd.

so i disabled the WiFi, the Ethernet and the Bluetooth and that did precisely nothing to the latency graph.
then i killed the keyboard manager process and the latency dropped down to 250 and has been there ever since, with occassional spikes up to 3000 or so.

so i take back all the nasty things i said about messenger ... although it still might be causing the spikes. i'll have to have a play around with various program combinations.

sick of computers.
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jamie

Sep 6, 2008 2:39 PM in response to Gr8h8m

I have found drivers that solve this problem. These are specifically for Windows XP and provided by HP.

I have uploaded them to my filefront page.
http://dodownload.filefront.com/11716940//917514313267faac50d9ab8e9baaf959bea57b 4c729a8ad4d6aede53e440e4a654b2ba424e0ea949
If you do not trust the fact that it is an executable, scan it on www.virustotal.com

With these, I no longer have random disconnections or jittery audio//video from time to time. Best of all, I can disable the wireless.

Good luck.

Sep 7, 2008 5:26 PM in response to jdonlin

The broadcom driver previously linked seems to do some good as far as audio pops go but it doesn't entirely eliminate the problem for me. T_T I was very hopeful. However, I've not managed to lock up my system disabling the wireless since I installed the driver so that's one positive effect I guess?

Come on, apple, step up and fix it @_@ The representative that I talked to also said they didn't recognize it as a problem, even when they looked at the forums. :Y

Oct 5, 2008 11:48 AM in response to Irukichan

Hi there,
ok - a quick and hopeful update!
I've just installed the latest Atheros v7.6.0.260 drivers for Windows XP (available from http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14858 ), and as of right now, 30 minutes of testing later, I've been able to succesfully disable the Atheros AR5008 without my machine locking up!!!
I'm trying to keep cautious and not get over excited about this, so have also not yet marked this problem as solved; gonna give it a couple of days of testing to be sure but I thought I'd give you all a heads up so that someone else could test these drivers as well?
Post here your results here if you try them out.

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