Acoustic Guitar Simulator?

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Acoustic Guitar Simulator?

Within the myriad of effects and simulators, is there an actual acoustic guitar simulator within LP8/Mainstage? i.e. an effect that makes an electric guitar sound (somewhat) like an acoustic guitar? There are several patches in LP8 that are intended to be used with an actual acoustic guitar, but I haven't found one that provides the effect from an electric guitar. Did I miss something? (surprising, considering it's a common effect found on many cheap DSP guitar multi-effect floor pedals and DSP amps)

20" iMac 2.4Ghz, Mac OS X (10.5.1), Boss GT-3 w/ Presonus Firebox

Posted on Dec 25, 2007 6:23 PM

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Answer 1

Dec 25, 2007 8:55 PM in response to m2m2m

I also need help with this -_-

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juhani h.

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Dec 26, 2007 2:58 AM in response to m2m2m

Well, I haven´t found the effect as such, but a workaround. I use Match EQ to copy the sound of an electric, and then apply the resulting EQ curve on an acoustic. Works pretty well, especially if you fiddle around a bit with the parameters.

But I agree that it would be nice if Logic could do it for me in an easier way!

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m2m2m Author

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Dec 26, 2007 9:21 AM in response to m2m2m

that's what I thought... so short of creating one's own acoustic guitar simulator using EQ Match and various effects & tricks, is anyone using a 3rd party plug-in for this effect? possibly Amplitube, GuitarRig, etc.?

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m2m2m Author

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Feb 16, 2008 9:07 AM in response to m2m2m

I made a custom patch by EQ'ing and compressing the heck out of it, added some reverb, and it sounds pretty close to the simulated ones you hear in all the FX pedals. I think the key is to really push the high end (10Khz) and the low (100-150Hz) with fairly tight Q's in the parametric. It will never replace an acoustic, but if you A-B it with a clean electric patch you can certainly hear more of a resemblance to an acoustic guitar.

A bit off topic, I've been working with the software sound called 12 String Acoustic Chords, which plays a full chord with one MIDI note entry, and it includes down and up strums, and by trial and error, I can actually get a pretty nice sounding software acoustic guitar track. I know, why not just record the track with a real guitar... but it's not always the simplest thing to get a nice clean, quiet track, plus I don't have a 12 string 🙂 Try it out, you might be surprised, it's got major and minor chords for sure, but maybe there are other chord type samples available. I've heard of Real Guitar which presumably does the same thing, but it's kinda nice having some similar functionality built into Logic.

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rrrobo

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Feb 16, 2008 11:10 AM in response to m2m2m

I've read about people using impulse responses taken from acoustic guitars to make dry electric guitars sound like acoustics. Never tried it myself you understand, but it's a great concept.

Cheers

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Feb 16, 2008 2:15 PM in response to rrrobo

"I've read about people using impulse responses taken from acoustic guitars to make dry electric guitars sound like acoustics. Never tried it myself you understand, but it's a great concept."

It has something to do with the resonance of an acoustic guitar. I guess you would need a very small room effect (more an ambience effect, roomsize similar to the guitars dimensions) to simulate the resonance frequencies of an acoustic guitar.

Eddie

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rrrobo

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Feb 16, 2008 5:41 PM in response to Eddie Eagle

Exactly! You can take a response of an actual acoustic guitar though. I found where I'd read it before - posts by cigame2 on this thread:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6111266&#6111266

Cheers Eddie and cigame2
R

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Answer 8

Feb 18, 2008 1:40 AM in response to m2m2m

Using Match EQ will get you quite close to the right tone.

Space Designer might be able to help to simulate the reverb generated by the body of the acoustic.

My honest opinion is that even with a lot of work you will be a long way from a nicely mic'd up acoustic. I think DI'd electro-acoustics don't even get particularly close so a DI'd electric is going to be hard work.

I've heard some bits and pieces where people have attempted this and the results were not disasterous but only just about excuseable!

Good luck!

Message was edited by: davidChief

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m2m2m Author

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Feb 18, 2008 8:47 AM in response to m2m2m

Thanks again, when I get more tweaking time, I'll try out some of your suggestions. Is there anywhere where people exchange channel strip settings online?

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