AIFC quality vs. AIFF

I have a 29mb AIFC file (its original format) with a bit rate of 374 kbps. If I use QT to convert it to an AIFF file, I end up with a 109mb file at 1411 kbps.

1) Is there any actual loss of audio quality inherent in the AIFC format? Or is it considered a compressed but lossless format?

2) Given the differences in bit rate and file size, should there be a difference in sound quality between my original AIFC file and the converted AIFF file?

3) If I want to convert my original AIFC file to an mp3 or a WAV file and maintain the best quality, does it matter if I go right from AIFC to mp3/WAV, or is it better to go from AIFC to AIFF first (to 'decompress' it), and then from AIFF to mp3/ WAV?



Thanks for the help.

G4 Quicksilver, DP 800, FCP 4.5, Mac OS X (10.4.11)

Posted on Dec 26, 2007 1:15 AM

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Dec 26, 2007 2:29 AM in response to Jim Logan

Greetings!

AIFC is a compressed file format.

As with all compressed file formats, you are highly dependent on the CODEC that converted the file. However, with such a high bit rate (at least for compressed files), there is likely to be little audio loss on that resultant file. WIth MP3, 320mbps is generally considered to be as good as it gets and would be indistinguishable on most speakers systems to most people.

If you're planning on doing any work on the file later, however, you should never save as a compressed file format. For instance, frequency bands that are inaudible because of louder bands elsewhere in the mix may be dropped during compression. If, however, you later want to apply EQ to level these bands out, you can't do that if one has been stripped from the file.

On to your quetions specifically:

1) No, it is a lossy format. At a bit rate, you should get good results. However, at low bit rates, you would get poor results (although it depends on the purpose of the final file). I doubt you would notice much difference between AIFF and AIFC at > 300kbps

2) This depends entirely on the CODEC. I would always go to full-fat first and have a listen to that before converting down. However, if you're doing batch conversions, just try one and see what you think. As I mentioned earlier, it depends on the target use. If you're knocking it down to listen to on earbuds from an MP3 player, then the quality loss of the small earbud speakers is such that 192kbps may well be enough. In that case, a direct conversion should be good enough. Going from AIFC to AIFF should not make much of a loss to your file, though there will be some impact. Going from AIFF to Wav ought to make no difference whatsoever, since both are PCM files. However, do check on bit depth and sample rate. ANy time you change either of those, there will be a loss, even going from smaller values to higher.

Dec 26, 2007 4:11 AM in response to Apple Certified Trainer

Greetings, and thanks for the prompt and detailed answer.

Unfortunately I don't have an uncompressed version of the file. The AIFC file is a recording of some streamed music made with WireTap Pro. I should have initially captured it as an uncompressed AIFF file but didn't, so I'm stuck with the compressed AIFC file as my original.

Now I want to give the file to some Windows users, who will be listening on a small stereo or iPod. I was thinking of going from AIFC to mp3 or WAV, but it sounds like the best quality may be to go AIFC to AIFF and give them that. I'll be using either iTunes, QT Pro, or Audacity for the conversion.

Of course I'd love to just give them the original AIFC file so there's no further degradation. Is it correct that for Windows, AIFF files are more compatible than AIFC, and that to play AIFC files, the Windows user must have Quicktime installed?

Dec 26, 2007 6:05 AM in response to Jim Logan

If the music is from a streamed source then the original quality is going to be quite low anyway, perhaps no more than 128kbps. Even though you recorded it at a higher rate, the quality will not have been improved from the original. Therefore, you shouldn't worry about the quality loss by shifting it further - there will probably be little impact.

As for compatibility, your recipients should have no problems playing AIFC. If in doubt, check out this knowledgebase item:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/316992

That says that AIFC is supported in all recent versions of Windows Media Player (including V9, V10 and V11). So, let them have the AIFC with impunity!

Pete

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