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Hybrid Mor

Hello-

I am sure someone knows the answer to this and I cannot find it. When trying to load in certain synths I get the dialogue box 'Logic Pro: Plug-in "Hybrid Mor" not available'. Who can tell me where I can find this elusive plug-in. The same synths worked in Logic Pro 7. Hmm??

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Jan 8, 2008 11:49 AM

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Posted on Jan 8, 2008 12:03 PM

Open /Library/Application Support/Garageband/

The "Instrument Library" folder should be left where it is. Inside it, you'll see:
- Plug-In Settings
- Sampler
- Track Settings

The Sampler directory is where the sample instrument content goes. Inside Sampler, you'll see:
- Sampler Files
- Sampler Instruments

Again, leave Sampler Instruments where they are - these are the instrument files and are relatively small. Sampler Files contains the sample content for the instruments.

Now, you can move all sample folders inside Sampler Files to a folder on an external drive except the "Hybrid Synthesizers" folder. It, and it's content, must stay here, otherwise some plugins in GB and Logic will break. It cannot be aliased.

If that Hybrid Synthesizers folder is not in that specific place, or the content is moved, then the "Hybrid *" plugins will not show up in Logic. As they are not showing up for you, there is a problem with that content. Reinstall it, or move it back if you've tried to mvoe it elsewhere.
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Jan 8, 2008 12:03 PM in response to JdoubleU

Open /Library/Application Support/Garageband/

The "Instrument Library" folder should be left where it is. Inside it, you'll see:
- Plug-In Settings
- Sampler
- Track Settings

The Sampler directory is where the sample instrument content goes. Inside Sampler, you'll see:
- Sampler Files
- Sampler Instruments

Again, leave Sampler Instruments where they are - these are the instrument files and are relatively small. Sampler Files contains the sample content for the instruments.

Now, you can move all sample folders inside Sampler Files to a folder on an external drive except the "Hybrid Synthesizers" folder. It, and it's content, must stay here, otherwise some plugins in GB and Logic will break. It cannot be aliased.

If that Hybrid Synthesizers folder is not in that specific place, or the content is moved, then the "Hybrid *" plugins will not show up in Logic. As they are not showing up for you, there is a problem with that content. Reinstall it, or move it back if you've tried to mvoe it elsewhere.

Jan 9, 2008 10:05 AM in response to JdoubleU

I discovered that the Hybrid Synthesizers folder is not in the Sample files.
I never moved it so I guess it did not get installed.

I started to follow your instructions about reinstallation. Of course a full reinstall is hours long so i tried to figure out which part of the installation I need and could not. Which sub menu of the installation should I use?

Thanks.

Jan 9, 2008 11:18 AM in response to JdoubleU

When you run the installer, one of the options to install, which is not checked by default, is the core GB (Garageband) content.

That should contain the Hybrid stuff.

Pacifist is a program that lets you extract files directly out of installer packages, without having to run the installer program - quite useful sometimes. Stick it into google for the link...

Jan 12, 2008 2:48 PM in response to JdoubleU

From another thread and the Apple support kbase:

"If you have already installed Garageband and Logic Pro 8 but you get
"Logic Pro: Plug-In "Hybrid Mor" not available!" error message, just install Garageband Additional Software Instruments from your iLife'08 DVD. (Custom Install )

After that LP8 will work perfectly. "

If you don't have iLife08, I'll dig out my installer disks and see which installer package from Logic they are contained in...

Jan 27, 2008 1:52 PM in response to Bee Jay

This is the second time you've responded to my "help wanted" and the second time you've supplied me with the same link to solve the same problem (s). I appreciate your help but I don't think you're reading the entire problem. There is no "hybrid synthesizers" folder to speak of... it plainly does not exist and I did not move it nor did it get placed somewhere else and I've already installed everything including the O.S. and all other applications twice thus far. In addition, the Hybrid Synth is not the only missing instrument...there are hundreds missing. None of the synths outside of the EXS are affected. They work fine. Garage Band also initializes but is missing hundreds of sounds.

The second problem I get now is this message "Can't find DAE folder in system folder (-9064) I did not move or delete anything. It started after I started GB for the first time after the second complete install.

When you say install again, do you mean re-install everything. This is the generic direction I've gotten from Apple. Frankly I'm tired of re-installing everything because it takes hours. I do not only use LP8. Someone out there must have a clear explanation of what's wrong. If this is one of the most common threads as you say than why is Apple not addressing it with a patch or an update. Must I delete everything LP8 before re-install, or does it matter? Do I have to re-install the O.S. too?

Jan 27, 2008 2:15 PM in response to painkiller101

pardon?

Painkiller are you also joujou? If not I'm confused. Anyways, beejay has done more than enough to help so here is my two cents, after being in your predicament:

1. If you're able to, reinstall leopard and wipe your system. Don't install garage band
2. Then reinstall Logic

May sound drastic, but you seem to have all kinds of things wrong. When I got frustrated with the hybrid synth issue, I took the opportunity to upgrade to leopard, and got rid of garageband once and for all.

Everything's cleaner now - you might wish to do a similar cleanup.

Jan 27, 2008 2:18 PM in response to painkiller101

I appreciate your help but I don't think you're reading the entire problem.


Fine - then assume I don't know what I'm talking about, didn't have the exact same problem and didn't fix it myself. I've given you the solutions, if you can't take the problem into your own hands and follow the given advice, then I can't help you - we can't magically fix your computer for you remotely.

If you don't understand exactly what to do, then it would make sense to post and ask for clarification, rather than telling the people who are trying to help you (and plenty of others) out that we don't know what we are talking about.

The second problem I get now is this message "Can't find DAE folder in system folder
(-9064) I did not move or delete anything. It started after I started GB for the first time
after the second complete install.


The DAE is the ProTools driver (Digidesign Audio Engine), so it looks like you might have turned that on for some reason. Go to your audio prefs and see whether the ProTools drivers (DAE) are turned on, and if so, turn them off.

And that's nothing to do with the missing content problem.

When you say install again, do you mean re-install everything. This is the generic
direction I've gotten from Apple. Frankly I'm tired of re-installing everything
because it takes hours.


Well, it may take hours, but if you'd done it already you would probably have fixed it days ago, and not be spending any more time posting about it.

I said the way I fixed it was to use Pacifist to extract the instrument content (not the loop content) only to a second place, so I could see what content I should have, and move the missing stuff to my library automatically. If you have the skills to do that, that's what I recommend doing, and it should take a lot less time than reinstalling the entire content. Remember, the issue is only with the instrument content, not the loop content.

I do not only use LP8. Someone out there must have a clear explanation of what's wrong.


The Logic installer has a problem which means it deletes some existing GB content with confilcting names. This manifests itself when you have Garageband content from older versions (and is why iLife 08 also fixes it, because it has newer content).

If this is one of the most common threads as you say than why is Apple not addressing
it with a patch or an update.


I cannot speak for Apple. Maybe they've already fixed it. Maybe it's not the most important issue they are dealing with. Who knows? They are certainly aware of the issue, which is why they issued a tech note.

Must I delete everything LP8 before re-install, or does it matter?


No.

Do I have to re-install the O.S. too?


You're being a bit silly now, you don't need to reinstall OSX. This is a Logic content issue only.

In any case, perhaps you're willing to listen to someone else - I try to help out, but I'm not going to fight to help people who don't want it, so I'm out. If you are really stuck, a bit of research will give you many answers. In any case, I hope you get it sorted, and I'm sorry I couldn't fix you issue in a way that you deem acceptable...

Feb 7, 2008 8:21 PM in response to Bee Jay

Just to add my ha'penny's worth:

I have the same missing hybrid X "instruments" - along with some other content such as an "Ensemble Strings" EXS24 instrument which is missing at least one sample.

To be clear: This is a clean install, includes "Legacy Logic 7 content" and I have not moved any folders or deleted content - NOTHING.
So an "off the shelf" install of Logic Studio with ALL content installed on the local drive of my IMac results in a number of missing or broken instruments.

The fact that the EXS24 still INSISTS (?!!! my word have I tried to stop this behaviour) on automatically searching for missing content just adds to the injury.
(With 50+gb of samples that is some search - I am drinking far more tea than is good for me!)
In all seriousness, it really makes using my rig pretty joyless at times; that is wondering if simply selecting an instrument or channel strip setting is going o send my IMac into an involuntary 15 minute spasm of disk searching - it is a ludicrous situation.
I have spent an age sorting out my personal EXS24 library (using EXSManager to great effect - in the inexplicable absence of "Project Manager" in Logic 8) to find that the Apple's own DEFAULT LIBRARY is BROKEN!
I mean come on! If that isn't a "bug" I don't know....

I currently reside in Bangkok, they eat fried bugs here. Maybe that will help?

Hybrid Mor

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