Motu Ultralight and Logic

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Motu Ultralight and Logic

Hmm,
any one else out there running Logic with a Motu Ultralite?
I am running this setup in surround and in stereo () and I
am wondering if there is any other thoughts out there about
the ins and outs and running surround.

The problem I am having is the live 'analog' out system
some times I cant tell if the sound is running through logic
or if it is just through the mixer (in a live mixing setup)

for example say I take a stereo in to my Ultralite...
hit the input monitor on in Logic...

The audio seems to pass through with nothing going though
Logic at all - no levels and the sound still passes through

If I record enable (or input enable) the signal is louder
but it seems like its mixed with the sound of the previous
(unlogified) sound.

does this make sense... It is important for me to figure out
because I want to use live to pass audio through in a live pa
dj type setting.

thnks

Mac Book Pro intel core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.5.1), very important for music production

Posted on Jan 20, 2008 2:24 AM

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Answer 1

Jan 20, 2008 4:54 AM in response to jazzmutant

How many Outs have Motu Ultralite?

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Answer 2

Jan 20, 2008 5:06 AM in response to Community User

I see on the Motu web site..
it comes with 10 Analog outputs, so Logic should be auto-configure the Ultralite OUTs when you open a Logic surround project
You need only 5 or 7 powered monitor speakers + 1 powerd Sub Woofer with a good cables configuration.

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David_Pye

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Jan 20, 2008 11:32 AM in response to jazzmutant

Sounds to me like you're incorrectly using BOTH software monitoring in Logic at the same time as using the "Zero" Latency monitoring in the MOTU Cuemix software. You only need use one of these so turn one off/down.

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jazzmutant Author

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Jan 20, 2008 1:23 PM in response to David_Pye

I'll check into this latency idea...

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jazzmutant Author

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Jan 20, 2008 2:15 PM in response to David_Pye

I am not sure how to do this but yes I have successfully opened up a big can of worms... 🙂

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jazzmutant Author

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Jan 20, 2008 2:26 PM in response to jazzmutant

I hate to say this dude... but I was better off before I started messing with
the cue mix stuff and all... my problem is now worse (eek) Help! hahaha

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David_Pye

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Jan 20, 2008 3:12 PM in response to jazzmutant

WHY? Just turn down all the channels in Cuemix and just use SOftware monitoring in Logic, that should sort everything out. OR alternatively turn off software monitoring and remember to turn up the channel you wish to monitor in cuemix.

Essential spend some time reading some manuals, everything should become clear.

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Jan 20, 2008 4:33 PM in response to David_Pye

It's becoming more clear!
the ultralite is confusing the heck out of me
with the main out and the analog out...

how is this interfacing with logic?

it seems as though its like this
main out 1 = out 1
main out 2 = out 2
analog out 1 = out 3
analog out 2 = out 4
analog out 3 = out 5
analog out 4 = out 6

etc. is this always the case ?

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Answer 9

Jan 21, 2008 2:03 AM in response to jazzmutant

jazzmutant wrote:
It's becoming more clear!
the ultralite is confusing the heck out of me
with the main out and the analog out...

how is this interfacing with logic?

it seems as though its like this
main out 1 = out 1
main out 2 = out 2
analog out 1 = out 3
analog out 2 = out 4
analog out 3 = out 5
analog out 4 = out 6

etc. is this always the case ?

Yeah!
that it is the same as Motu 828MKII

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Answer 10

Jan 21, 2008 2:15 AM in response to jazzmutant

There is a option in uhm... Options to get the I/O labels from your motu in Logic.

Goto Options > Audio > I/O Labels..

Select the device and the labels you want to be shown in Logic. The next time you will see stuff like Mic/Guitar etc. So it is not confusing anymore.

For a visual example check the manual on page 579

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jazzmutant Author

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Jan 21, 2008 9:30 AM in response to Rick Hoekman

Dudes thanks this is all very help full. Is any one using the motu for Surround Sound Mixing? I am wondering if you could enlighten us on some I/O setups.

Also for all the MOTU Ultralite Ninjas out there;

is there any difference in the levels of output of the main out 1-2
and analog outs 1-2? Please advise.

Thanks,
-:a:-

www.youtube.com/glitchboy

Message was edited by: jazzmutant

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David_Pye

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Jan 21, 2008 1:01 PM in response to jazzmutant

is there any difference in the levels of output of the main out 1-2
and analog outs 1-2? Please advise.

There REALLY shouldn't be. In reality I guess there might be a small difference, but it is designed that they are all the same.

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Answer 13

Jan 21, 2008 1:13 PM in response to David_Pye

Why do you think that they are the same and still think there might be a difference? Because of the internal routing?

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David_Pye

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Jan 21, 2008 2:12 PM in response to Rick Hoekman

What I mean is, they should all be rated to be the same such as +4dB -10dB. But in reality things like this sometimes require re-calibrating sometimes, or can from the start be a TINY bit out of alignment. Like 0.1dB between outputs.

Digidesign despite their faults have always had a calibration mode for their hardware. When interfacing with other outboard especially other recorders, like a tape machine for example, it's important that all the outputs are aligned. Of course a good engineer, or someone with keen ears, can work around it, but it's best if there isn't a problem there in the first place.

In this case, I can't see this sort of difference in response being a problem, or even noticeable. I just wanted to make sure and say that there CAN be the slightest difference between outputs regardless of their rated levels.

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Answer 15

Jan 21, 2008 2:36 PM in response to David_Pye

I see.. Thanks man!

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