Should i be using ProRes?

ProRes has a higher data rate, requires faster drives, and is more processor intensive. You are making SD DVDs...stick to DVCPRO HD.

Shane

Hi!
I am working with footage shot with AG-HVX 200P on P2 cards but I dont find the transcode option with DVCPRO HD 720p60.... I just find two options in the Preferences in the Log And Transfer Window and they are: Apple ProRes 422 and Apple ProRes 422(HQ)....

I will glad if anybody amongst you can help me out with this....

Thanks,
Kanika

You cannot transcode P2 footage to ProRes in the Log and Transfer window. You can only import it as DVCPRO HD. You can transcode it later, but I really don't see the need. DVCPRO HD is a perfectly fine codec. I use it from start to finish, and delivery 1080p HDCAM masters for broadcast delivery.

Shane

Hi Shane,

I will tell you my workflow pattern and then please do guide me for I am new to HD....
I shot videos using AG-HVX 200P in DVCPRO HD 1080i/60i format as well as DVCPRO HD 1080i/24p format...I transfered the files in P2 card by using the camera connected via Firewire to my laptop...In the Log and Transfer Window in FCP, MXF files were converted to MOVs....

I edited these MOVs on timeline with sequence settings : Editing Timebase:24 , Codec: HDV 1080p24 because I want Progressive output and not Interlaced....but when I exported them what I find is that all the movies are in the format 1080i60 and not DVCPRO HD......

Where did I go wrong?

Thanks!

Oh in my sequence settings the compressor is DVCPRO HD 1080p30 and not HDV 1080p24.....And I after I export my movies... I get the codec as DVCPRO HD 1080i60 for all the movies....
Why is this happening?

How did you export?

Shane

I exported the videos on timeline as quicktime movies with current settings and they are all self-contained movies... But when I check the information in the finder then I see that all the videos have DVCPRO HD 1080i60 as the codec and not 1080p30 as I had given in timeline.....

I wish I could show you my screen.....

I read a blog of yours which said that Raylight can convert MXFs to MOVs....But its not for Mac OS x (10.5 version)

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Are you sure that it isn't the COMPRESSOR that is 1080i and not the codec?

Raylight doesn't convert. It allows FCP to read MXFs without converting them first.

Shane

The compressor is DVCPRO HD 1080p30 but the codec is DVCPRO HD 1080i60
Check this link out these links:
http://www.photosindia.com/ClientDelivery/LogTransfer.jpg
http://www.photosindia.com/ClientDelivery/Seqsettings.jpg
http://www.photosindia.com/ClientDelivery/1080i60screen.jpg

kanika

Hey Shane,

I downloaded the P2 Driver from the panasonic site and I installed it but I cant import MXF files into FCP.... They are greyed ....

Need your help! And thanks a lot for replying back patiently 🙂

as i understood it you cannot import MXF files directly into FCP or ingest them.

Sure can. You can read the MXF files directly if you install RAYLIGHT by DVFilm ($200)...and injest means import, and yes, FCP imports MXF files by putting them into a Quicktime wrapper and copying them to the media drive.

I always thought you needed the full CONTENT/List details to import the footage.

Yes, you do. Why not keep all of that? It would be silly to not keep the file structure of the format you are shooting. It exists for a reason. Why mess with it?

I know programs like RAYLIGHT/PC Log allow you to bypass this, but it seems a rather frustating limitation from Apple.

Sorry, but I find that it is a great FEATURE for Apple to do this. I wouldn't want to edit the MXF files natively. They have odd file names like 0002GHR and 00013RT. That is meaningless to me. I want to be able to look at my footage, name it, and copy it to my media drives. Then I want to take the drive with the MXF files on it and archive it...that is my source tape.

But people have their own workflows. If you want to read MXF natively, then use Raylight...or use Premiere or Edius.

I hope somebody else can shed some light on bringing in MXF files. Is there a plugin to allow this?

You mentioned it once, and I twice thus far. RAYLIGHT. That is your plugin.

Shane

OK...I see a whole bunch of weirdness going on. Why are you editing 1080p30 at 24fps. 24 straight up fps. That is not a video frame rate, and not the frame rate that 1080p30 should be. It should be 29.97 fps. And even if you were editing 24p footage, in video that would be 23.98, NOT 24. 24 is film only. The fact that your sequence settings are set to that means that you edited this entirely wrong. Because this was edited wrong, I have no doubt that exporting that would end up in some other wrongness happening.

If you shoot 1080p30, edit 19.97.
If you shoot 1080p24, either edit 29.97, or remove pulldown and edit 23.98
If you shoot 1080p60, then edit 59.94
If you shoot 1080i60, then edit 29.97

If you shoot on FILM, and telecined to tape and want to cut your negative, so you want to produce an accurate CUT LIST, then you reverse telecine to 24fps.

When you shoot a format and you want to edit that format, like DVCPRO HD 1080p30, then you should go into the Easy Setups, choose the DVCPRO HD 1080p30 setup, and then use that.

Sorry, but I don't know how to get out of the mess you are in.

Shane

My question initially came from confusion out of the L&T preferences where "P2 Plugin -> AVC Intra (transcode to Apple ProRes)" is listed.

That's AVCIntra, not DVCPRO HD. That is yet another codec designed by Panasonic. A 10-bit codec only available in the 2000 and 3000 models.

Shane