BootCamp and AutoCad for students

As a parent who just jumped in and bought a MacBook Pro for his daughter in college, I now realize she will need AutoCad for her interior design classes, so big ooops for me. I am trying to determine if installing BootCamp will be able to run that program effectively, or do I bite the bullet and get her the PC instead. It's the only Windows app she will need, albeit a big one ! Has Bootcamp evolved since its inception. I don't really want to do the Parallels Desktop either.

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5), Processor 065-7018 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

Posted on Feb 10, 2008 7:46 PM

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Feb 11, 2008 3:33 AM in response to joeyaudio

Hello,

You can indeed run Autocad on your Mac,I do and here's what you need.You will first need to install Windows XP via Bootcamp.I stress XP because unless you are going to run Autocad 2008 earlier versions aren't supported in Vista ( If your daughters school is providing 2008,then go with Vista).
It's not at all difficult to do and you will have the advantage of running Windows for other apps that OS X doesn't support.

Feb 11, 2008 11:02 AM in response to Mothman277

You can run AutoCAD on your mac with Boot Camp. But, in my experience (since the beta version of Boot Camp), the AutoCAD license breaks. I don't know why. I tried Googling the problem and there is a fix or patch for this kind of thing. But it was ineffective for me. So I am not able to run AutoCAD at all on my mac, using Boot Camp or Parallels.

For experienced users:
I want to try the Portable License Utility but am afraid that the source computer might lose its license. For example, if the original computer (Comp 1) has the license I want to transfer to Comp 2... if the license breaks on Comp 2, then the license will be invalid for Comp 1 forever. I might have to call Autodesk to activate it again.

In the end, I would not buy a mac for use of AutoCAD. I basically, myself, do not use AutoCAD at all because I only have macs in my household. I wish autodesk could make a mac version!

Feb 12, 2008 3:15 AM in response to joeyaudio

Yup,you have to purchase Leopard.I still have the DMG file for Bootcamp 1.3(with 1.4 being the final version prior to the Leopard version) but whenever i try to mount it, a message stating "This version has expired" will appear.

However, there is an ingenious way to circumvent the expired license by adjusting the date and time to some day before the expiry date. In this manner, you are able to fool Mac OS X.

I have yet to try it because my Windows partition is currently running well under Bootcamp 1.3 and there is a lot of data in iCal which i do not want to meddle with.

If you are interested in it for trial purposes regarding the usage of AutoCad,give me a reply.

Feb 12, 2008 7:19 AM in response to Mothman277

First of all, I thank you for your time. Secondly, her MacBook Pro is arriving today, so it is brand new. You say the leopard disc shoulld be included, is that right? So I should tell her the very first thing to do is install the Leopard program. Another question then, should I purchase Vista or XP Service pack 2 to run AutoCad. I need to keep this simple as she is 500 miles away at school, so I have no access to her computer obviously. This what she has:
Processor 065-7018 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 065-7020 2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
Hard Drive 065-7023 160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
Optical Drive 065-7025 SuperDrive 8X
Display 065-7037 15" Widescreen Display

Feb 12, 2008 10:24 AM in response to joeyaudio

Hello,

Yes absolutely,Leopard will be pre-installed or it will include the disc.First find out from your daughter which AutoCad version will be used.
Only AutoCad 2008 is supported under Vista,so any earlier editions require XP to run,which incidentally has angered a great many persons including myself who use AutoCad for work.
So anyway even if you bought a new PC you would still have to get one that still offers XP or hunt for XP drivers and such to run XP and AutoCad.In this respect it is easier to use Bootcamp to install XP as it includes the drivers required for your Intel based MacBook Pro.
So first find out which AutoCad and if the Pro comes with Leopard pre-installed,it should actually as I can't imagine that brand new issues don't have it already.
I can run you through step by step getting the install done,it really is easy to do.Also regarding the Windows partition,if your daughter is computer savy and wants to read/write Windows files from the Mac side than use the default 32GB partition size as this is the largest that can be formatted as FAT 32 required for the read/write facility.NTFS partitions can only be read on the Mac side and if you don't need to 'write' to Windows files I would recommend NTFS as it's more secure,faster and you can choose a larger Windows Partition.I would recommend 40GB to make sure there's room for AutoCad files ect.

Feb 12, 2008 7:17 PM in response to LukeD

Here is a list below on the link, of how to install, does it cover every step as sometimes the most obvious things aren't mentioned, even if it seems so simple.Looks like she will need a CD to burn MAC drivers initially. She did install Leopard today already. Also where do I get a double clicker mouse for the windows side?
http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/04/boot-camp-tutorial-install-windows-xp.html

Step 4 still confuses me on FAT or NTSF.I'm thinking she will want to save files to the windows volume for her projects, won't she? So she should use FAT.

Feb 12, 2008 9:40 PM in response to joeyaudio

Hello,

The directions in that link are outdated a bit.You no longer need to burn a disc for drivers as they are included in the leopard disk.
When you first open bootcamp (Click Finder then applications on the left pane.Under applications double click Utilities then under utilities double click Bootcamp Assistant)It advises to print the directions ( if she doesn't have a printer set-up set, ask a bud to print it for her)The directions are very straight forward and the Assistant guides you through each step from first choosing a partition size,choosing the correct partition to install Windows on,formatting the partition and finally installing the drivers from the leopard disk.
To keep things simple i would choose a 40GB partition and format it as NTFS (Again the Assistant shows how this is done)What I was trying to explain regarding Fat 32 vs NTFS is simply with both you can access your Windows files when your using Leopard, but you can only write to these files if the Windows partition is Fat 32.
Just think of the two operating systems as completely separate ( and indeed they are ) so that when using Windows and AutoCad, all of the associated files and data are stored and managed by Windows.
Did you find out which AutoCad version ?

Feb 13, 2008 8:41 AM in response to joeyaudio

Personally, I would go NTFS, and I would add MacDrive 7. This will enable you to read and write to your Mac OS. To write from your Mac OS onto your Windows, consider the following software.

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/

You cannot load Vista onto a Fat 32. Keeping it as NTFS will make it easier to upgrade later.


For MacDrive 7:
http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/bootcamp/

Follow these Boot Camp instructions:

http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

Message was edited by: LukeD

Feb 14, 2008 7:10 AM in response to Mothman277

I have not heard what version she will get. It's from school, so I am assuming it isn't the latest version 2008. Do I need both MacDrive 7 and the NTFS for Mac® OS X, or are they the same thing. You can see I'm not real sharp here. I will get both programs if need be, I just need to make it as simple for HER, as she will be doing the installation at her school.

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