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12052 Views 112 Replies Latest reply: May 7, 2008 11:12 PM by Antonio Conte
Currently Being ModeratedApr 19, 2008 3:50 PM (in response to andyz1)Ok, I've read through this entire post after deciding today I want the SD9 over the Sony CX6EK as I was told the picture quality is better with the SD9. Also, its smaller which is great.
Only prob is - this **** imovie issue!!!!! unbelievable - come on Apple!
BTW, I wasn't sure if the CX6EK would have worked either.
will need to decide soon, its my daughters 1st birthday in 2 weeks!!Macbook Pro 17" Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 19, 2008 9:28 PM (in response to Michael Butler2)Welp, I was able to get video to import in 24p mode into FCE, but I'll admit, the video must have been ever so slightly faster than the audio because after about 5 minutes of the movie there was about a 1 second discrepancy. Pretty cool, I guess, if you want to create an old school kung fu style movie.
The next ****** of this whole fiasco (for me at least) is knowing that I bought the camera on March 31st, from Amazon for $799.98 (a whopping $0.01 under the MSRP). I did manage to get another $103 and change back from them when the price dropped to $695 something within 30 days, but I have continually watched the bottom drop out of this thing and it is now $569.13...I think it is definitely worth $569.13 even if you have to go through the whole Voltaic conversion, but the fact that iMovie (and Voltaic) strip the 5.1 to 2 channel, and iMovie's max output is 960 x 540, I sometimes wonder why I even care that this camera does 1080. Oh, then I get my shining nugget of gold outta this whole thing. My PS3 (we need it cause it's a Blu-ray player, right honey?) plays the .MTS files beautifully. In fact, I can copy the SD card contents to my hard drive, then walk into the living room and pull up the home videos in 5.1 over the network (thank you MediaLink!). Granted, each MTS file is a separate file, so if you hit the record button, record for 1 minute, then stop recording, and do that often, then you'll end up with too many MTS files to keep track of. I usually have a good 4 to 5 minutes between clicks of the record start/stop button, so at worst, I just start a new file every few minutes, and I go through the home movies like that...the kids don't seem to mind (4 years and 1.5 years), so what the heck. I did use the software that came with the camera for a little while though. I was able to merge the videos into larger .M2TS files and that seemed to work well, but on my Dell 2350 (Pentium 4 @ 2.0 with 768 of RAM) it takes a while...if it can get it done at all.
Despite my ramblings, I love the camera...if I weren't able to view the movies at will on the HDTV over the network through the PS3, I would be upset, but that whole scenario gives me this little happy feeling which should last until Apple, or someone, takes care of this without me having to use 3rd party software...
Enough from me.
-JohniMac 24" 2.4 GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 20, 2008 12:32 PM (in response to Michael Butler2)Actually there is a loss of quality since Voltaic actually converts the video to HDV format i.e. 1440x1080 and not 1920x1080.
Also the audio is, I believe, downmixed to 2 channel stereo.MacPro Quad 3GHz / Intel iMac 17"/ MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5.2), Dual 23" HP display, 3GB RAM / 1GB RAM - Boot Camp
Currently Being ModeratedApr 21, 2008 12:14 PM (in response to Michael Butler2)If the size is an issue - pick up a copy of VisualHub http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/ $23
You can batch convert all the movies and retain close to the quality - for me they shrink down to about a third of size.
It's all a pain but hopefully we'll see an update soon.iMac & MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 26, 2008 10:16 AM (in response to Michael Butler2)Adding insult to injury, I actually paid close to $200 for Final Cut Express 4, only to learn it is completely useless now, along with iMovie. I appreciate everyone staying on top of this issue. I do not know how to contact apple by phone and ask about this.iMac, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 26, 2008 11:18 AM (in response to gerona)I've ordered the camcorder in the hope that Apple sort this out. I need a camcorder, adn this one has great spec, so I am going with it.
I'll keep watching this space myself.Macbook Pro 17" Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 6:20 AM (in response to Antonio Conte)Ok, only 1 day to go before my camcorder arrives!
I'm thinking I will probably need to get extra SDHC cards? has anyone got any good advise about these?
Also, would anyone like to share what other accessories would be recommended ? I'm thinking etra battery or case perhaps?
thanksMacbook Pro 17" Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 7:27 AM (in response to Antonio Conte)Consider a wide-angle lens. The current angle of view provided by today's camcorders seems to be quite small. So, I've found a wide angle lens to be useful to get more of the scene recorded.
Depending on what you aim to film a tripod is a worthwhile investment too. The camera does a great job of removing jitter, but it doesn't remove all of it.Mac Book, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 9:02 AM (in response to Josho the mac)thank you. What should I look for that fits it Wide angle wise?
Also, did you have any advise on SDHC cards?
thank you.Macbook Pro 17" Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 10:00 AM (in response to Antonio Conte)I have had good luck with Class 4 SDHC cards. They are plenty fast enough for a Panasonic HDC-SD5. (Note: If you are trying to do 1080P, then the class 6 may be a better option, but I don't think iMovie will handle 1080P anyway. You would probably need Final Cut Pro or perhaps Express).
Personally I use an 8GB SDHC card, with a 4GB card as a backup. 16GB SDHC cards have been announced, but they are fairly pricey.
With my SDHC cards, I have gotten into the habit of making a disk image of the card, so that I can always go back to the original footage if I need to. The disk images can be imported just like a supported camera. (Don't think the SD9 is supported yet).iMac 24 2.8Ghz, iPhone, ATV, Mac OS X (10.5.2), Parallels 5584 with XP, Panasonic HDC-SD5
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 10:04 AM (in response to AppleMan1958)thank you very much.
How long can you record on your 8GB?Macbook Pro 17" Core 2 Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 10:16 AM (in response to Antonio Conte)80 to 85 minutes in 1920x1080iiMac 24 2.8Ghz, iPhone, ATV, Mac OS X (10.5.2), Parallels 5584 with XP, Panasonic HDC-SD5
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 10:22 AM (in response to geoban)Does it work for you for the MTS files? I've tried to convert with VisualHub and FFMpegX but both apps crash/can't convert. Lots of PAFF interlacing is not implemented error messages.2.6Ghz 15" MBP, 24" C2D iMac, CD Mac Mini, DP G4 Powermac, AppleTV, iPhone, Mac OS X (10.5.2)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 28, 2008 12:11 PM (in response to BlueLightSpectrum)I too left feedback. I would encourage others to do so. Who would've thunk we'd ask manufacturers to accept responsibility? ^_^;g5 tower and intel iMac, Mac OS X (10.4.11)
Currently Being ModeratedApr 29, 2008 10:55 PM (in response to Michael Butler2)Hi all, I've just discovered that Roxio Toast 9 Titanium (which can burn AVCHD files to Blu-ray discs) also comes with a Video player for OS X which will play back MTS files natively! It will also convert them to other file formats, including H264, DiVX, HDV, etc.2.6Ghz 15" MBP, 24" C2D iMac, CD Mac Mini, DP G4 Powermac, AppleTV, iPhone, Mac OS X (10.5.2)