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Has anyone with a D-Link DIR-655 router gotten video iChat to work?

I'm wondering if people have gotten video chat to work just by turning on UPnP (i.e., without explicitly opening any ports)

PowerBook G4/1.67 GHz, Mac OS X (10.5.2), 7200rpm 100 GB HD, 2 GB RAM, iPhone 8GB (1.1.4)

Posted on Apr 28, 2008 10:46 PM

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Apr 30, 2008 12:29 PM in response to odysseus

AS far as I am aware only the devices listed at the top of this page do UPnP
http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=1996&question=UPnP

On some, such as the 624 listed here http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93333 (See note 2) it actually doesn't work with a Mac properly.

The pics of the Menus on this page http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DIR-655/iChat.htm suggest it does not have UPnP

The item in the menu "Application Rules" looks like a possible name for Port Triggering (A way of allowing Multiple computers use the same ports)
However it does not seem to be listed in the Port Forward Triggering guide list
http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_triggering/routerindex.htm

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Apr 30, 2008 1:00 PM in response to odysseus

Greetings,

Yes, I use UPnP and NAT-PMP without diddling with any ports, forwarding, or otherwise. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Before, I would have to fool around with port forwarding, and it was a pain to get right sometimes.

I personally use two AEBS "N" class base stations, at home, and a couple of Netgears at another location. At the College/work I use Cisco and Extreme network equipment - that's a different kettle of fish.

I have never had much in the way of consistent luck with D-Link, Linksys, the 2 Wire stuff, or Siemens equipment, for the home - using iChat or WiFi functions. The afore mention brands have been just to inconsistent, and unreliable for my tastes. I've tried to set them up for people in my organization and wound up putting them with an Apple, or Netgear device. At this time, these are the best ones that I have found for the home.

I use iChat at work and at home on a daily basis and have no trouble using it.

Good Luck - Cheers,
M.
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Apr 30, 2008 1:43 PM in response to odysseus

I see that does indeed appear to be a new doc.

This TS range is fairly new.

The D-Link 624 quoted in that is Rev C I see so hopefully it has an Improved version of UPnP in it.

Your Info seems at odds with the D-Links support site
http://support.dlink.com/faq/view.asp?prod_id=879&question=UPnP

Can you post a link to a Pic ?

I take it you are saying is does not work ?

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Apr 30, 2008 1:49 PM in response to odysseus

I used a Netgear DG834G until very recently.

The only reason I changed was because my current ISP sends out a Sagem Modem that routes but hard codes the ISP login details so you can not access them.

The DG834G did UPnP by default and the only thing I Changed apart from that was to Disable the DOS firewall and allow it to Respond to Internet Pings

(iChat can send Too Much Data Too Fast and some DOS and SPI features will cut the connection thinking it is an Attack from the internet when you and your Buddy have fast connections).

I know that Defcom who also posts here regularly uses a DG834N

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Apr 30, 2008 1:54 PM in response to odysseus

Ahh.

I thought you were having problems.

Personally I would not buy a D-Link to use with iChat.

1) There does seem to be an issue with their version of UPnP. Their site specifically refers to the Windows Implementation.

2) I have a sense from the posts here that they take work to set them up for Port Forwarding. (not sure if this is because they don't link the firewall and the Settings as some devices do. i.e. you have to set both places)

3) I also have a sense from these discussions of shortness in length of use.
They seems to only last a couple of years.

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Apr 30, 2008 2:00 PM in response to Ralph-Johns-UK

Ralph,

1. Their site refers to Windows because like most router manufacturers, they don't really support Macs.
2. It's not uncommon for third-party routers to require configuration for port-forwarding. I did it for my SMC and it works just fine.
3. I'm not sure what your point is. I think that many routers tend to kick the bucket after a few years. The AEBS hasn't been around for long enough to judge.

Apr 30, 2008 2:07 PM in response to odysseus

I only bought the Netgear when my Thomson-Alcatel Speedtouch 510v4 failed after 8 years and 4 firmware upgrade.

The Netgear will still work. I have only take it off line for the reasons stated.

If the question becomes do I know of a thread where someone with a DIR655 reports success the answer is No.
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Apr 30, 2008 2:13 PM in response to odysseus

Greetings,

Nope, not joking, Netgear 624 is one of them, and I don't remember the number right off hand on the others, but they are a bit up from the 624. The latest D-Link was about 3 months ago, not a pleasant experience, but I'm sure the newest ones have improved a bit since then.

The AEBSs that I have are the newest ones, and Jumbo frame support is back, although I don't use gigabit ethernet around here or at home except for uplinks between switches.

It only comes into play on the local network, only if you have huge files to transfer between your computers all the time, or maybe with some of the games out there, and has little to do with the internet, it won't help you surf or email any faster, unless you have a full duplex gigabit internet connection. Not many do, companies, schools, or otherwise.

No, I have not found any fault with Netgear stuff, but I have with many others, including the D-Link models that I have had the misfortune to work with. Maybe I'll get a stand out model someday, but I haven't yet.

Cheers,
M.
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Apr 30, 2008 3:07 PM in response to Monty1945

I'm aware of what Jumbo frames are useful for -- certain NAS devices, for example.

I'd love to see some proof that the AEBS supports jumbo frames. Here are some links that cast doubt on that idea:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1085469

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6393410

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30188/96/

And here is positive feedback on the DIR-655 from Mac users:

http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/airport802_11n/index.html#d30apr2008

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