Create new tracks in Logic Pro duplicates another track

When I add new tracks, they are always doubles of an existing track, i.e., the one currently selected. This means the track number is the same too, and the two are twins in that if I change the track number in one, the other one changes as well.

If i choose "Multiple Tracks" and choose STEREO, but is Momom. The new track shows that it is Stereo- however, the actual recording is only one wave (mono).

I can change / toggle this with the Mono/Stereo button. However, the recording, i.e., a stereo guitar track that is true stereo two channels- from a PODxt's L& R outputs, into a MOTU Traveler's #1 and #2 inputs, panned to the L& R extremes.

But the new track is mono. Not sure if the two are related. Re-ran the setup wizard to amke sure i had all the hardware correct.

Posted on Sep 12, 2005 7:33 PM

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Sep 19, 2005 4:21 AM in response to Steven W Ross

Hi Steven, As an alternative you could try this:
Open the Track Mixer, press 'global', press 'track'. This will now show you all the available tracks (As designated in the Audio/Audio Hardware & Drivers preference panel). Double click at the bottom of a new track of your choice (in the coloured bit). Click the 'global' button again to return to your personal 'track mixer'. The new track will appear both here AND in the 'arrange window'.
Incidentally, if I'm not mistaken, the 'global' function in the 'track mixer' should give you access to all the tracks shown in the drop down menu mentioned earlier by David.
Hope this is of some use

Sep 19, 2005 6:19 AM in response to Alistair Reay

Allstair-

So you're saying by opening a new track in the Track Mixer Window, by first clicking "Global" then 2X in an empty track (to create), and then deselecting "global" again, as true NEW track, with no pre-existing track / channel (routing)assignments is created (as well is all related windows, including Arrange)?

I can see using this way.

Thanks.

Sep 20, 2005 6:30 AM in response to Steven W Ross

Hello again Steven
When you said "2x in an empty track (to create)", I realized that I've misunderstood and probably misled you.
If you have already used up all the assigned tracks (say 9) and now need more, then go to: Audio/Audio Hardware & Drivers preference panel. Here you can increase the "Max number of Audio Tracks" (which you initially set to 9 at the beginning of the project) and increase it to however many you now need. Re-boot logic and these new tracks will be accessible either in the drop down menu or in the Track mixer global mode as described earlier. They will appear as "new unused" tracks as opposed to "empty tracks"
Love to know if this makes sense.
Alistair

Sep 20, 2005 8:02 AM in response to Alistair Reay

Allstair--

I hadn't thought of that either, and what you say makes sense. If I had limited the potential for total tracks in my setup (prefs) I would not be able to double-click in the mixer's bottom "box" and get a new track. As for the re-launch, I did know that, but thanks.

I now see that I had also missed an essential point, and apparently so did at least two others who had offered advice and guidance and philosophies, but maybe your instructions still answered my question - one of the two I thought I was asking, ;-0.

That is: assuming I have the potential (in my hardware and setup) to create and can see the number of tracks. My issue with these ostensibly "new" tracks (that become tied into another track) involves those in my potential list (when the project is first open) and / yet still empty. In fact, it's not about creating "a" new track, it specifically about creating a "new" track - if this makes sense - meaning, one that is by definition not associated with another.

In other words, in my scenario I have a few tracks with audio in them; and decide to add another. This "other," or "new" track (i.e., in the Arrange Window's left side list of "tracks," which is to be distinguished from the "audio track" which I've referred to as a "track assignment") can be one of these "free," or open, tracks, i.e., not yet used. Another scenario might be that my hardware setup (as established in the Preferences) has 24 possible but my template only uses 8. Maybe this is leading somewhere...

If I had 16 tracks in my template, but only 8 set up in my basic project, and then clicked SHIFT+ENTER to create a 9th track, would this track be a twin of another? That's my issue. It's not about adding new potential tracks, it's about the nature of the "new" track was not literally "new, as it contained routings, and other attributes, that had been defined in another track, specifically the particular track that happened to be selected at the point I used the "Create New" command (Shift+Enter). The most problematic aspect of the issue, for me, is that the newly created (twin) track shared the same "audio track assignment (or channel) along with buss assignments. AND these attributes, routings, what ever, could NOT be changed without also changing the initial track (track 8, if that's the track I had selected immediately before choose "Create New."

In other words, this ostensibly, but not truly, "new track" would actually have a name that was identical to "that" initial track that I'd have selected immediately prior to "create new." Correct? Although I can change its name i cannot change its audio track assignment. Correct?

The reason for this, and solution to it, seems to be that the term Create NEW is not literally denoting what i think It should, and so for me to create a new track I need to use one of two other procedures: 1) ensure I have an audio track selected, and then choose "Create New From Next Inst" (SH CORETURN, with which I also have some terminology issues, or 2) CO+RETURN which brings up the "Multiple New Track" dialog.

Having belabored this point to some degree of boredom for you and others i must say that the MAIN reason this is a bummer for me is because there seems to be NO FACILITY to separate those attributes (routing, etc) from those "twin" tracks. If there was I'd simply change the audio track assignment and move on.

But yes, I did understand that in order for me to create any new track it needs to be enabled in one of the three hardware preference settings for the audio, midi or instrument respectively.

So thanks, and back to you, Allstair. Am I making sense, and did we establish that "Create New" doesn't really connote "new," but rather "clone?"

And, am I correct in that there are two ways to create a new track (assuming it's possible and set up for in prefs) 1) "Create New From Next Instrument or 2) "Create Multiple?"

And is it correct to say that once an audi

Sep 20, 2005 8:38 AM in response to Steven W Ross

After taking a break from this thread and coming back, it's rather sad to see how many times we've gone around in circles.

Sadly to say, we're not the ones who have missed the point.

You were given 3+ plus ways of creating tracks that all work with Logic's workflow. Not to mention that they are real easy to grasp on to. You were told how tracks work and how you should be separating the track from the instrument (in this case, audio channel). You were also told that if you want to have different routings for the same audio input, create a track with a different audio channel and point it to the same audio input.

Everything above has been presented ad nauseum and yet you still insist on beating a dead horse. Isn't it about time to make some music with what you have been told???

jord

Sep 20, 2005 7:14 PM in response to Steven W Ross

Steven W Ross, "Create new tracks in Logic Pro duplicates another track" #36, 09:02am Sep 20, 2005 CDT

The main point is that you seem to be having issues with some really basic stuff that is not really all that hard to grasp.
It has been explained time and time again in this thread.

I suggest you may be better off walking away from it for a couple of days, Then coming back and doing the tutorial as if you are totally new to all this.
Do the tutorials step-by-step, don't just scan them for info.

Or read up on what an Audio Object is, and what it's parameters mean..

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