Apogee Ensemble -vs- Apogee Rosetta (200 or 800)

I am in the market to purchase one of these interfaces.
I would like to hear from anyone that owns either of these interfaces
and have used it not only to record but to also mix out of.
I understand that the Ensemble is a step down in quality than
the Rosetta but would like to hear if anyone has 'heard'
a difference.
I have installed a Rosetta 800 and thought it sounded amazing.
I have also read many good reviews about the Ensemble and it seems like a
really flexible interface with the preamps and the Adat i/o.
I also own a MOTU HD 192 that I dont particularly like the 'sound' of.
I have seen the upgrades for it thru Black Lion but not sure
exactly what they are doing besides isolating the power supply.
Anyway feel free to say what you like...

Mac OS X (10.5.2)

Posted on May 20, 2008 5:46 PM

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May 20, 2008 9:48 PM in response to remixvillain

I had an Ensemble on loan for a week while waiting for my Symphony System with a Rosetta to come in.

I went with the Symphony only because it was supposed to be the better of the two in latency. I know the analog section of the box in the Rosetta is better on paper than the Ensemble as well.

In the real world, in a less than perfect control room (which I have!)....I did not notice a huge quality jump. I can't frankly remember whether I noticed any. In fact, I have often wished I kept the Ensemble because it had nice clean mic pres built in and way more I/O options. It is a great box, and you couldn't go wrong with it.

We all get way to caught up with improvements that are barely noticeable (if at all, consistently) considering that our end product generally ends up on radio, TV, or an iPod.

Can anyone hear the difference in a record made with a Rosetta vs an Ensemble on the radio?
TV? iPod? Less than perfect listening environment? I am betting a real big "no," and for the difference in costs you could buy another mic, or software, or...dare I say...put it in savings.

JMHO.

TH

May 21, 2008 4:21 AM in response to Tom Hartman1

Great points, thanks Tom!
For the flexibility the Ensemble offers, I am favoring
it more and more.
And I have recently started to enjoy saving money
so that is fine with me!

What interface/system did you own before the Apogee system?
Curious about the migration and change in 'sound'...
what areas have made a difference in the music you record/produce?

May 21, 2008 6:10 AM in response to remixvillain

The biggest difference in sound came when I started using Apogee, from using things like a Digi 002, etc. Years back I went to an Apogee PSX 100 and that was huge. I've gotten so used to the Apogee sound that you can really hear it when it's not there, especially on playback. Everything is more solid and everything just sounds bigger with good converters.

Once you get good converters, then it starts to be splitting hairs as to whether the difference between them is worth hundreds (or even thousands) unless you are in a mastering room and every other part of your chain is world class.

Tom

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