Time Machine Alternatives

I think it's time for me to find an alternative to Time Machine. I had a lot of trouble with it initially and performed an erase and install on a drive only to find that the TM backup I was going to restore from had become corrupted. I recovered from that and had no problems with it for 6 months, where it was backing everything up properly, I could restore files with no problem and I had several months of backups. I then discovered the other day that once again the backup files have somehow become corrupted and are unusable. I'm ready to move on now. I'd like to hear some suggestions for commercial and/or shareware/freeware backup solutions to use as an alternative.

Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.5.1), 1.25 GHZ, 1GB Ram

Posted on Aug 5, 2008 10:41 AM

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Aug 5, 2008 1:10 PM in response to octafish

OK, well I'm answering my own question. After a bit of research it looks like Carbon Copy Cloner may be the best solution. I didn't realize you could schedule backups with it. So if I'm not mistaken I can create an initial clone of my HD and then schedule it to backup just files that have changed on a daily basis. Anyone here using a similar set up?

Aug 5, 2008 1:26 PM in response to octafish

Octafish,

I use SuperDuper! to perform a clone of my drive, that way I have everything and can immediately switch over if there is a major problem and I'm on a deadline. I haven't used CCC in a while but I think the differences between them now are minor. SuperDuper! allows incremental clone updating so only the changed files are added. It will also put your machine to sleep or shut down at the end of the process so it's handy to do at night.

However, I used SD in conjunction with Time Machine. There are times when I admittedly forget to run SD and I like that Time Machine always has me covered. Plus if I accidently delete a file, it's on Time Machine but it will be removed from my clone when I back up next.

SD also allows scheduled backups.

Aug 5, 2008 3:25 PM in response to George Krompacky

A good point George, about the bootable clone. If that's a key criterion of your backup solution, then Backup doesn't address it. Personally, I've never had to use a bootable clone, though I have taken the precaution of occassionally creating a disk image, on a Mac via Disk Utility. Admittedly, not a unified solution, but operationally seems complete.

I think the bottom line for me is that TM holds a lot of promise, and is very convenient - it's not perfect, though it will probably improve in the future.

Aug 5, 2008 3:37 PM in response to B. Bruce Brinson

The bottom line for me on TM is that on 2 separate occasions I've had to delete my TM backups and "start over". That kind of defeats the whole purpose. It also slows my machine down and runs constantly. I think I'm going to try using CCC to clone my drives and then do scheduled nightly incremental backups and see how that goes. I'll need to figure out how to clone and backup both my internal HD and external FW HD to a 3rd FW HD with CCC, although I'm sure there's a way.

Aug 5, 2008 5:44 PM in response to B. Bruce Brinson

B. Bruce Brinson wrote:
A good point George, about the bootable clone. If that's a key criterion of your backup solution, then Backup doesn't address it. Personally, I've never had to use a bootable clone, though I have taken the precaution of occassionally creating a disk image, on a Mac via Disk Utility. Admittedly, not a unified solution, but operationally seems complete.

Be wary of .dmg backups.
Read this thread and the very sad thread referenced in it.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7795498&#7795498
I would never use a .dmg as a backup. Never.

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Aug 5, 2008 5:37 PM in response to B. Bruce Brinson

B. Bruce Brinson wrote:
A good point George, about the bootable clone. If that's a key criterion of your backup solution, then Backup doesn't address it. Personally, I've never had to use a bootable clone, though I have taken the precaution of occassionally creating a disk image, on a Mac via Disk Utility.


A bootable clone is testable. You can immediately boot into in and run and use it. It's foolproof.
I still have my Tiger clones on the "bottom" of my TM drives. They both work fine and I occasionally run them.
I have a separate LaCie drive for making SuperDuper clones of my current OSs, once a week or whenever I think it's time, in addition to TM, which, for me has performed flawlessly since November when I installed Leopard on all three of my Macs.

Aug 5, 2008 5:47 PM in response to baltwo

baltwo wrote:
A key backup criterion is to ensure that the backup is usable; therefore, a bootable backup is optimum because it doesn't need restoring to ensure that it's viable.

It also provides a true backup. If the HD fails, the user can still run the OS from the clone while repairs or replacements are being made.
Any other type of backup is useless without an OS.

Aug 5, 2008 9:45 PM in response to octafish

Yesterday I would have argued with you about TM. Today I found out that the backups it had made since april are gone! Not only that but it had changed the name of my computer in it's backups and I can't figure out how to change it back because it keeps telling me I don't have sufficient privileges. Even though my account has administrator privileges. So today I agree with you.

As far as other backups are concerned I have been using SuperDuper for the last couple of yeas in a rather esoteric way, and have restored from it a couple of times when I pushed the wrong button. On Monday, Wednesday and Friday I do a SD b/u to a partition on an external drive. Then on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday I do a b/u from the first external drive to a partition on a separate external drive, so I'm never without a b/u more than a day old. Redundancy. If it's good enough for NASA it's good enough for my iMac.

To me the advantage of TM is that it provides a quick and easy way to restore a file that hasn't yet been backed up by another means. If it has become something that can't be depended on, what's the point of taking up disk space? I guess for now I'll just assign it to another partition and see how it works for a while before getting rid of it, or just turning it off.

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