Kiss icon and duplicate emails

Using my Emac desktop and Mail 1.3.1; I sent it up at one time so I know there must be a way to EDIT this. In the body of my new composing email messages it does not appear; but all receivers of my emails with ALL my different email account names receive an email with all the text and an icon/photo of kissing red/pink lips. How do I remove this??? I went to Mail Prefs and there is no option to add or edit such an icon. I went thru help menu with these key words- nothing. Also some how I am getting double everything with my .mac emails receiving. How did this happen and how do I stop receiving two of everything sent to my .mac email account?

Emac Desktop, Mac OS X (10.3.x), Mail 1.3.1

Posted on Aug 13, 2008 3:29 PM

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Aug 13, 2008 6:27 PM in response to Lauran

If people have an Apple addressbook with that picture as the icon to go with your addressbook entry in their addressbook, it will be displayed in their messages that they have received from you. They need to remove that picture from their address book. How they got that picture with your addressbook information, I don't know. Plus, I don't know if this behavior would be limited to just Mac OS 10.4/10.5 Mail.app-using recipients of your email messages or not.

Aug 14, 2008 12:49 PM in response to j.v.

Thanks for reply but this is not the case. I CREATED THIS KISS/LIPS icon originally from choices in some preference menu on the Emac itself. Not thru Mac Mail as I have searched all preference menus. Perhaps there was something to personalize my ID on the Emac itself? I just don't know where to look- I have gone thru all system preference menus/choices and nothing has the option to personalize my ID on my Emac. You know- when we all set up our wallpaper and such-- I believe it was something like this and then I noticed it appeared on Mac Mail too- actually the ONLY place it appears. Because when I am adding some new software install and Emac asks for my password- there is a choice with my name with a kitty icon/photo next to my name....so it MUST be something with the core Emac User ID choices. Please someone must know this answer-- I am sure it was something simple because I did it on the original setup before I knew much of how to use the Emac...
Also- the duplicate email problems-- I receive TWO of all incoming emails to my .mac account. I have gone to my .mac account on Apple.com to check to see if I had some wrong set up choices in those prefs- nope. I have the same ISP for all- just forward all email accounts to this one ISP- earthlink. and only duplicates are from my one .mac account. Please advise.

Aug 14, 2008 8:08 PM in response to Lauran

I know you created the avatar when you were setting up your account. It would show up in the header of email you are composing because it links to the image in your "Me" card in your address book, and it got into your "Me" card from the choice of avatar you selected when you set up your account. It would also show up in messages that you viewed that were originally sent by you. It would also be your iChat/AIM avatar, until you changed it to something else within ichat. Once you delete the image from your "Me" card or delete the "Me" card, you wouldn't see it anymore.

But you said email recipients of email from you are seeing it -- that you had already gotten rid of it on your end (presumably by deleting the avatar from your "Me" card or deleting your "Me" card). Are the recipients that are receiving this avatar in emails from you macintosh users? Are they using Apple Mail.app as their email program? Do they have an address card for you in their address book? Do these address cards for you, in their address books, have the "lipstick kiss" avatar as its image? Did they get the address card for you from a VCF card that you sent them, that maybe have had this avatar linked to it somehow? Then they need to delete it on their end if they don't like it. It displays through the same mechanism as I described in the previous paragraph.

I don't know how that avatar would have gotten into the possession of your mail recipients...have you ever ichatted or AOL IM'ed with them or sent them a vcf card? But now they have it, and if they don't like it, they have to remove it from their address book's card for you.

Sorry, I can't even offer any suggestions of where to start with the duplicate message problem.

Good luck!

Aug 16, 2008 10:32 AM in response to ali brown

Lauran wrote:
In the body of my new composing email messages it does not appear; but all receivers of my emails ... receive an email with ... an icon/photo of kissing red/pink lips.


Question: what would Lauren clearing the custom icon from Lauren's address book have to do with the recipients of Lauren's emails seeing this avatar?

Do you agree with the premise that the avatar is not transmitted with sent email?

So isn't it the recipients that have to do what you are suggesting?

Aug 17, 2008 10:03 AM in response to j.v.

No- the post "j.v" posted was the successful answer.

It was all due to my address book set up I did years ago and Mac Mail just hooks my personal .mac account emails and all other emails with my name on it (in personal ID parenthetically placed). The reasons recipients receive this photo/icon (NOT an avatar in anyway) is because they downloaded it at one time- so now it stuck in their computer's meme files when my emails turn up.

It was looking unprofessional when I was sending pro emails to some people- to have kissing lips!

Thanks "j.v" for your help and later- "ali brown"-- I didn't have to do all the clear custom image stuff- just clicked on the photo and deleted it/ in edit mode of my address book card.

Thanks all-- NOW-- that nasty duplicate mail for all my .mac email accounts. Still getting TWO of every single email sent to my .mac email accounts! Please assist.

Aug 17, 2008 1:41 PM in response to Lauran

Lauran wrote:
No- the post "j.v" posted was the successful answer.

So I'm confused ... you meant that the post "ali", and not "j.v.", posted was the successful answer (given that your quoted reply was in response to j.v. and ali got the "solved"), right? I'd sure like to know how your deleting the photo from your Me card, which somehow was not displaying in your "compose new message" windows in the first place, according to your original post, cleared that picture from being viewed by remote recipients of messages from you, when they were reading emails that they had received from you. Somebody's going to have to explain that one to me someday. Coz' when viewing raw message source, it is clear that that picture is not sent along with the message, so it would have seemed that said photo would have been in your recipients' address books so they would have had to be the ones to delete it on their end, in order to make it go away, or so I would have thought. Regardless, happy for you that you got the picture thing solved. I hate that "feature." But I'd still sure like to get an explanation of how your deleting your local picture that you didn't see anyways removed it from all remote recipients received email messages sent by you.

I have no clue about how to approach your duplicate emails with your .mac account problem -- I don't get duplicate emails like that and I don't have .mac, either, so I'll have to defer on that one. Since this thread is marked solved, solvers may be less inclined to visit this thread, so I would recommend that you post a new thread describing this problem over in the Panther Mail forum.

Aug 18, 2008 12:33 PM in response to j.v.

First- I am truly sorry for any confusion. My intention was to display appreciation for both J.v. and ali for taking their precious time and efforts to assist me in this silly little problem. Again thanks to both of you for pretty much giving the same resolve with the foundation being in my address book software. Second, please post where I ever wrote that this kiss icon/photo never showed up when I went to "compose new message windows "? I can't find anything that even suggested this in my post of this problem. Yes, it showed up on all my personal computer use of the mac mail functions-but also with the receivers of my emails who did not even own a Mac. It was simply the address book ID I set up years ago on my own card and I was unaware that there is an automated function to link it all to mac mail. Yes over the years I was aware that this kiss icon was in all my emails on my viewing; but I never realized my receivers would also be looking at it until recently someone replied alerting me to this and not being appropriate for professional communications.

Lastly, yes I see I replied to Ali posting he resolved; but there was no option to reply to both once I checked my question was answered; so I thought the best alternative was to write a post stating the two posters names as given in posts assisted me successfully.

I believe j.v.'s confusion was in miscomprehending all my posts- I never wrote that I never see my photo in my own emails. So I trust that cleared up your confusion. Also in the resolve- I learned the receivers that view my photo in the email had downloaded my ecard/vcard- so that is why they also saw it. And once I swapped a photo of a dog-- then they saw that on present and saved emails they had from me-- so I guess it just updated it (on the receivers that have mac mail too; not the non mac users-PC non apple products). But on the Iphone users, he also saw the kiss icon and he has a more advanced mac mail software but I don't have details. Others never mentioned it; as I stated, just the one coworker alerted me. So for years I was ignorant to such. And I will post the existing problem of the duplicate emails. I see there are two other people with same problem, but just replies of "can't help you with that one..." to no replies but 1000s of views ; so I see a future of me just deleting my duplicates-- yet it also deletes original until I drag one of them into my inbox from trash. I trust it is some very simple resolve that I am just over looking again and again. Thanks again. I will not be visiting this thread anymore. Over and out:-)

Aug 18, 2008 10:23 PM in response to Lauran

I had gotten that impression from the second sentence in the initial post:
" In the body of my new composing email messages it does not appear; but all receivers of my emails with ALL my different email account names receive an email with all the text and an icon/photo of kissing red/pink lips." I guess that's a little different than saying it doesn't show up on the right side of the message header of message composition window. So my mistake. You can perhaps understand my confusion in trying to figure out which post solved your problem, I was wondering whether I was way off base with my reply that the recipients had to remove it from their addy books.

No big deal, the (first) problem is solved. Yay! (Now, good luck to you on that second one)

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