Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Dec 28, 2013 2:22 PM in response to kvoth

Kvoth,


Just to be totally accurate, the Dell U2410 is CCFL-backlit, not LED-backlit. I'm using one now as I write this, and I'm very happy with it. However, I have reason to believe that the (LED backlit) U2413, though perhaps not as good as the U2410, would still be much better than most LED-backlit monitors for three reasons. First, it uses current-controlled dimming down to 20%, after which it uses PWM. Second, when it does use PWM it runs it at about 8 KHz instead of the 200Hz most monitors use. Third, the LEDs are a new kind: GB-r LEDs which have a much better color spectrum than conventional white LEDs. They are a combined green/blue LED with a phosphor to generate red components (hence the name), as opposed to a blue LED with a phosphor to generate mostly yellow. That doesn't mean that it would be as good as CCFL but I'd be surprised if it wasn't much better than conventional white LEDs. If anyone has tried this monitor, please let us know what you think!

Dec 28, 2013 2:44 PM in response to RMartin111

I had my iPhone 4S stolen a few days ago (no problems with this or earlier iPhones). So I went to the apple store to buy an iPhone5S, and had the same problem I have with the last three years of any new LED devices. I'm about to go return the 5S, due to nausea, headaches and pain in my lower legs. It also affects my ability to concentrate.


I wish Apple didn't make the 16GB version of the 4S unavailable. In an effort to get everyone to get the latest phone, now I'm forced to downgrade to 8GB of disk space.


This is so frustrating that I want to grab a hammer and hit the 5S as hard as I can on one of those wooden tables when I return it.


I've already tried the 5, all recent versions of the MBP, the iPad3. I tried a MS Surface Pro, an acer Aspire S7. A Nokia Lumia 920, a Samsung Galaxy S4.


All of those devices give me headaches. Even the Kindle Fire, and surprisingly, the Kindle Paperwhite if I read it at night with the LED backlight on.


Has anybody found a modern smartphone or laptop that doesn't cause headaches? The only devices I can use at work are old LCD monitors, and at home I lucked out with a set of ASUS ProArt monitors (these are fluorescent displays). I also bought a Panasonic Plasma TV, and I only get headaches from it if I turn on 3D features.


Any help would be appreciated. I already had my eyesight checked. The only working theory I have right now is that maybe I have some form of photosensitivity that is causing small seizures when I'm exposed to LED displays.

Dec 28, 2013 6:11 PM in response to rpmiller4

rpmiller4


If you have headaches with plasma 3D (polarization), it seems to enforce the theory of polarization i wrote several posts back.


Can you check with your Panasonic glasses on if your iphone 5s and other models that make you nausea, have colors effects?


There are other causes related with LED's namely blue light spectrum, which might cause eye strain along symptoms.

Dec 28, 2013 7:59 PM in response to kvoth

Thank you, kvoth,


I will stay away from u2413 - you confirmed my suspicion after I read that it has been updated with LED technology compared to the u2410



About the prism, I have slight nearsightedness but do not wear glasses, because every glasses or contact lenses I've tried gave me nausia and eye strain. I don't have a lazy eye and have no problems focusing my eyes, but when looking at the mirror, one eye is slightly off center compared to the other. One day in a chance encounter an eye doctor suggested I might need a prism. She let me try a frame with prism lenses and I immideately experienced immense relief. She said fitting a right prism is a costly and lengthy process of grinding the prism into the glass by trial and error. When I went to an eye doctor and asked for a prism, he said I do not need one.


So now you are bringing up prism and that makes me Very curious. More than 10 years had past since my prism "un-experience", may be technology has changed, was the process of getting a prism easy for you?

Dec 29, 2013 2:17 AM in response to tfouto

Just think about how changing a driver or an OS, which often causes the issue with eye strain to appear, could have anything to do with polarization or LED backlight or blue light. I think it doesn't. Software can not make it more polarized, more LED and it doesn't really change the lamp's spectrum. Things you should be talking and thinking about is that software changes the way content on the screen is displayed. A separate issue is PWM, which I am not talking about now, because Apple doesn't seem to use it, but almost every external display will have it, though.

Dec 29, 2013 4:55 AM in response to OQ3

OQ3,


I dont think that the problem is with drivers at least in my case. It can be one of the causes. But to me it's not.

I have a HTC one. I sent it to warranty. They change the display. Other things remain the same. One hurts like bad(it's eye severe pain, not strain), the other dont. The screens are from different manufacters.


So if drivers could be a cause of the problem, they are not the all story. There are people here who complains on regular LED lightning. Is it drivers? Of course not. And why does people with Iphone 4s with the same IOS7 dont have problems, or have little, and with iphone 5 and the same IOS7 are having severe problems?


You have to understand that there are several causes to eye strain. The eye is complex mechanism. You cant reduce it to a simple thing.

Dec 29, 2013 5:50 PM in response to tfouto

I already returned the iPhone 5S. I don't know that it has anything to do with polarization, at least not the way you describe it. When I look at my iPhone 4S at an angle I see a holographic color effect. But it does NOT give me headaches. Same if I use my active 3D glasses to look at it.


Does anybody know what the spec difference is between the iPhone 4S and the iPhone 5 as far as the display goes? This would be the easiest way to find out why the iPhone 5 makes me feel sick and the iPhone 4 doesn't.


I can't even update IOS from 7.0.3 to 7.0.4 due to lack of disk space. It would be nice to be able to get a new phone or at least solve this headache problem.

Jan 3, 2014 12:19 AM in response to tfouto

Has anyone noticed that the 2008 iMac screens are N-S polarized, and the current Retina screens are E-W polarized? The new screens are better for folk like me who need to wear multifocal polaroids when viewing the screen. I had to have special polaroid glasses made (a fixed-focus compromise) to view the 2008 screen. However, the current discussions make me think that Retina screens are a risk, despite their friendlier polarization.

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