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Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Mar 28, 2014 12:11 PM in response to GKphone


Good links GKphone, they go through the basics of flicker and spectrum on LED monitors in a clear way anyone could understand. Has anyone tried using an EIZO monitor that has these blue light lowering and flicker adjustments? Interestingly enough the EIZO monitor article claims 5000K as a pleasant setting, I have researched nothing bad news about anything above 3000K for those who are sensitive....Not sure how they are getting less actual blue light out of an LED bulb that only emits blue light.....You need to read the article to understand why I quesiton this part.


"We were able to create a comfortable viewing environment with Auto EcoView automatic brightness adjustment and Paper mode, part of Fine Contrast presets."


Jesse

Mar 28, 2014 12:26 PM in response to Jessiah1

jessiah1 thanks for your posts... lots of info...


One interesting thing. I bought a kindle paperwhite. The one with LED backlight. And i have to say, with led max brightness it's the worst offender to my eyes. Worst then any phone...


So i guess on my case dithering is not the problem. Only backlight (blue-light)...


Of course i will not keep it... Maybe will look into the older non-backlight version...

Mar 28, 2014 12:45 PM in response to tfouto

tfouto, we need someone with a spectrometer to measure the actual wavelength of light emitted by these devices to understand exactly how harmful they may be, we cannot rely on manufactures accounts for this information.


This is an old paper from 2000 on Blue light and how it damages the retina. I imagine all of this information needs updating however there is interesting info on yellow filters and testing on animal retina's. It was written before the onset of LED lighting, imagine how it would read now if re-written....I think part of the problem with using blue light blocking filters for most of us is that these filters are supposed to prevent damage from happening not reverse the effects we are experiencing now. The real question is are these lights causing some sort of eye damage, we do not know because it is not something optometrists are trained to look for and the effects may not be obvious. Also, keep in mind not all yellow filters are blocking 100% of blue light, I imagine ski goggles are not a good example.


http://www.cclvi.org/contributions/effects1.htm


I know I have unloaded tons of info today and yesterday, unfortunately there is so much more out there that everyone here could benefit from reading and this is not even a 10th of what I have read in the last 4 years.....


Jesse

Mar 28, 2014 3:36 PM in response to tfouto

I also found that the blue LED front light on the Kindle paperwhite is the worst thing I've ever seen. However, I try to turn the light completely off and use ambient light. Unfortunately the light does not completely turn off. However, using high-intensity ambient incandescent or florescence light or outdoor light I can read on the paper like display for many hours without eyestrain. To me this suggests that pulse width modulation and or blueshifted LED lights are sufficient to cause the eyestrain. Similarly, I still am able to use the iPad 3 and 4 or my iPhone 5 for many hours without difficulty. This suggests to me that not all LED displays produce the symptoms. I wish I knew what the difference was between the display technology of the iPad 4 and 5. I have unfortunately tried to use the iPad 5 on two occasions and had to return both times, despite this being a perfect tablet for my needs. I am aware that they started using IGZO display technology, however they apparently use significantly fewer LED backlights, which might also be using aggressive PWM to save battery life. I am hopeful that the next iPad will work for me.

Mar 28, 2014 3:50 PM in response to Scott98981

"I can read on the paper like display for many hours without eyestrain." You can use the kindle that way?


I guess it's better to me to buy the kindle 69$ and return the paperwhite 119$. Why pay more for the backlight i cant use. I dont understand why cant we turn off the light completly.


The light on the kindle is really, really harsh. I suppose it's also to do with color temperature, not just spectrum.


Real paper is the best thing to my eyes...

Mar 28, 2014 6:43 PM in response to tfouto

I think either Kindle would work well. However you may be so sensitive to the LED blue frontlight that even when it is on low it may affect you. I prefer the touchscreen capability of the paperwhite. I've also used Gunnar optiks yellow lenses with the paperwhite LED with no improvement. I would imagine these lenses should filter out any offending blue light, but did not have success.


Has anyone had success with the iPad air using reduce white point? I really want to give the iPad air another try. I need a device for reading PDFs and there are no E-INK displays that are large enough + fast enough processor to manage PDFs. So far the iPad has the best PDF rendering I've seen on any device. It's even faster than MacBooks.

Mar 31, 2014 10:50 PM in response to tfouto

Would anyone have access to Galaxy S5 to test the PWM with the DSLR video test? (or the picture test)


I have again purchased the Surface Pro 2, since there is really no alternatives - but that has a PWM frequency of something like 600 Hz and it does bother my eyes if I use it for several hours. It's not the blue spectrum, since I've tried F.Lux and also a Spyder calibration and either of those do not help.


The PWM cannot be measured by taking a pictrue of a vertical line, but it does show up as horizontal lines if I film the screen with a shutter speed of 4000, with 25 frames per second video setting. There are clear horizontal lines flowing trough the screen, which are not visible in those displays that do not cause discomfort like: Galaxy s2 on full brightness, HPZR2740w on any brightness.


I have without doubt confirmed that my eye irritation is exclusively due to the PWM or flicker. Flicker could of course be caused also by the much talked about dithering, but I still doubt it.


Some say that Apple does not use PWM, but I suspect that it's not the case, the PWM is just so high frequency that it cannot be measured by typical devices, but it still irritates the eye.

Apr 1, 2014 6:20 AM in response to tfouto

Might be. But with the displays that I have confirmed that have PWM, it is the PWM, since once the PWM component is removed, there is absolutely no eye strain. Like with the Samsung SA850. It has PWM of 240 Hz, but when the brightness is 100 % there is no PWM and no eyestrain.


My experience with Apple products is only iPad 1 and that does seem to have PWM as per the DSLR test. Though could also be that the dithering shows up as flicker.


But in anycase, it is the flicker for me, not blue light. I know few people like to hear this, but I'd still suggest trying onen of the displays that are confirmed flicker free. And really try it so that there is a long break after using a display that causes problems, so as to let they eyes recover. If I use the Surface Pro for several hours, it takes roughly 3 days for my eyes to fully recover.


This is a frustrating problem, as now there are articles also in the mass media about "how to reduce eye strain with computer displays" Often these articles list PWM as one of the problems, but then suggest some incorrect things like lowering the brighness, which for most monitors just starts the PWM thus makes the problems worse.


I was hoping the Galaxy S5 would have no PWM like S2, so I could finally get a new phone.

Apr 1, 2014 3:50 PM in response to OQ3

OQ3 "There are ways of filtering out blue light, you know? But flicker cannot be filtered out."


Most of which do not actually filter out blue light but block a wide spectrum at a small percentage, normal sunglasses for example. Yellow filters are not blocking 100% of all blue light either, I will further this after a discussion with a PHD I will be having soon.


"Dithering is related to flicker. It's a form of flicker...


tfoutoIn my case is essentially blue-light, but there seems to be here people with 2 different kinds of issues..."


Possibly, however it would be difficult to rule out either, both flicker and spectrum can exacerbate the issue in combination. In mojarvinen'ssituation it sounds like he has reasonable evidence only PWM or any form of flicker will trigger his issue however I would caution that it could still be both and here is why. His symptoms could be pre-dominantly eye strain related so blue light may contribute to the severity when flicker is present but not be the primary cause. Removing flicker may be enough for him/her (I cannot recall, my apologies) to not have symptoms however it could be due to a higher tolerance overall to blue light and flicker than others here have, it does not rule out spectrum being part of the issue with any scientific method.


I will explain why I have this theory, myself being of the most severe group:


I have viewed some "Flicker free" devices and played with removing PWM on CCFL/LED monitors, the result for me is continued symptoms however they are not as head pounding migraine style in the beginning as they are Vertigo and disorientation. This is on par with wavelength being the issue and when flicker is removed there is improvement, unfortunately for me the Vertigo is so bad it becomes a migraine eventually anyway. The point is removing flicker makes a difference. There are many "flicker free" LED light's out there, they are after all called "Solid state lighting" and they ALL make me seriously sick within minutes. The devices we know have LED blue light and flicker are definitely the worst and combine both Vertigo/Migraines instantly for me. In addition to this so does my pellet stove with glass window, the flickering flames which are full spectrum fire cause me to have headaches, interestingly enough it takes much longer for them to become a migraine and they are not as severe at first as Blue spectrum LED lighting. We can assume flicker is the primary culprit with the fire, correct? So there are many examples of both being an issue with different reactions when flicker or spectrum is removed.


Hopefully I have written this out clearly? I have hoped to help others understand this very point for some time, with the severity of my situation I have unique experiences which I believe explain in theory much of the spectrum Vs. flicker conundrum!


Jesse

Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

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