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Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Apr 2, 2014 12:39 PM in response to Jessiah1

If a yellow filter does not block 100% blue light it is not a yellow filter. By definition.


Let's be clear, blue light may exascerbate strain in certain people. It cannot damage eyes at normal levels any more than red or green, as has been claimed.


If a poor yellow filter only blocks 80% blue light and you have problems it is unlikely to be color that is your problem. Concentrate on flicker rduction by using screens at 100% brightness and neutral filters to attenuate level.

Apr 3, 2014 11:12 PM in response to soundstar3

Suggestion - why not try the blue blocking glasses like those Uvex glasses that you can buy from Amzaon for $5?


That way one could be sure that no blue light enters the eye, (daylight, ceiling lights etc.)


I have those, but those do not make any difference.


But I've used those for circardian rythm synchronizing - the topic is big in the biohacking scene.


I'd bet my money on blue light not being the problem for any of us, unless the person also suffers symptoms when being outdoors on a clear sky day.

Apr 4, 2014 12:33 AM in response to mojarvinen

morjavinen,


it's better you to stay on a intention to bet, and not bet for real, because you would loose your money.


It's totally diferent, the spectrum of light of a clear sky and a led screen.


Clear light it's a flat spectrum. All the cones of the eye are receiving the same amounts of light. The processing of color in the brain is even.


On a led screen, the light is basically almost blue part of the spectrum at a high energy. The green and red are much lower. The blue cones are the most stimulated. And the problem is that the eye has much less blue cones than green or red. Much, much less. I suppose the blue cones are much more sensitive, or the brain processing the blue is more efective. Maybe the processing of light in brain with such an uneven spectrum of light is problematic for some.


The problem is just not the blue light, it's the totally uneven distribution of light. That's the difference between a clear light and a LED screen. It's the relationship between the amount of total light received by all cones and the blue ones... A world of difference...


For all the list of people complaining here there seems to be two different kind of causes here at least.


I have monitors with a PWM with low frequencies and i dont have a problem with it for more then 10 years a use that monitor.

Apr 4, 2014 2:38 AM in response to tfouto

I used to have problems looking at any invisibly flickering light, but was convinced blue light was the problem. Found a material that blocked all blue and most of the green part of the spectrum as well. Well, instead of the pain comming in 10 seconds it came in a minute or two. Didn't solve the problem at all, just made it a tiny bit more comfortable. The blue thing is overrated. Sure, it can be a factor to some degree, but it's just blown out of proportions here. It's a conveniant explanation, nothing more. I'm sure if you did some tests, like removing the screen in a PWM-free display and looking at the flicker-free backlight directly after reducing it to a comfortable brightness level, you would feel it's not a problem to look at it. You say: "I just don't buy the whole screen pixels having consciously undetectable flickering thing.". Well, check it, if you want to know for sure! I saw these flickering pixels with my own eyes when I found the right settings on my cellphone camera and looked through it. But I was somewhat lucky that one of my cameras could detect it. Research flicker and headaches/ eye pain. You will see that the list of your symptoms is identical. You say:"Oh, my monitor has PWM and I can use it. It must not be flicker. It can only be the blue light" Well, there is such a thing as different flicker frequencies. Perhaps the 60 Hz pixel flicker is more troublesome to you than the 200 Hz PWM flicker. Or maybe it's because the pixels flicker so chaotically.


http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/eyestrain/#tab03


"When comparing the relationship between LED and blue light, we have confirmed that LED backlights and CCFL backlights have about the same amount of blue light."


Apr 4, 2014 2:45 AM in response to tfouto

This certainly makes this whole problem more interesting and difficult.


The PWM is quite clear and there starts to be some mainstream acceptance, that it is a real problem for many.


Dithering is less obvious and I think so is the blue spectrum.


And then there are people with all kinds of other similar problems, like a friend of mine that cannot look at a screen unless it is at the eye height, without experiencing epileptic seizures.


It's mindblowing that even this thread has been going on for so long, but no clear solution is avaiblable yet, for everyone, that is.


Many years I thought that I was just using the computer too much, like when I was after workday playing games - my eyes would get irritated on a CRT and non LED LCD. Afterwards I discovered that even the LCD which seemingly did not cause problems in moderate use, did have a PWM of 130 Hz. I tolerated moderate use, but now the new especially Samsung panels have 240 Hz, which is not tolerable even for 30 minutes.


It's a mystery though, why my Sony Trinitron CRT irritated my eyes 20 years ago, where some other CRT's didn't at the same refresh rate.

Apr 4, 2014 3:08 AM in response to Dovez

"Found a material that blocked all blue and most of the green part of the spectrum as well." This is not true. It cant block all blue and green. Do you believe in the description of the product? It's impossible to do that...


"Well, instead of the pain comming in 10 seconds it came in a minute or two. Didn't solve the problem at all, just made it a tiny bit more comfortable. The blue thing is overrated. "


That's why it get better but didn't blocked all blue light at all.

Apr 4, 2014 3:11 AM in response to Dovez

"I'm sure if you did some tests, like removing the screen in a PWM-free display and looking at the flicker-free backlight directly after reducing it to a comfortable brightness level, you would feel it's not a problem to look at it."


Seeing the kindle paperwhite front-light at max bright is the worst offender to my eyes...


I am glad you are sure for a proof you dont have...


Apr 4, 2014 3:17 AM in response to tfouto

"Perhaps the 60 Hz pixel flicker is more troublesome to you than the 200 Hz PWM flicker. Or maybe it's because the pixels flicker so chaotically."


If there is a static screen, white screen with letters, The screen dont flicker at 60hz like white, black at 60hz. It just refreshs the white 60 times per second... the same color...


To me flux, does a world of wonders. The more red the screen the better...

Apr 4, 2014 3:21 AM in response to tfouto

tfouto wrote:




Seeing the kindle paperwhite front-light at max bright is the worst offender to my eyes...


Are you sure it's flicker-free. Another cause could be spatial dithering. Does it bother you without the frontlight? Maybe you've mentioned it before, but I seem to have forgotten. No harm in repeating, right?

Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

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