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Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Oct 17, 2014 4:09 AM in response to RMartin111

I see that this thread has calmed down a bit - I hope everyone's finding solutions to their problems! Doves - I have tried to convince myself that this isn't real but it's hard to believe when I'm lying in a dark room with a crazy migraine for days.. :]


Has anyone tried Yosemite yet? I know a few people noticed a difference between Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion (much worse eyestrain) so fingers crossed it may have been reversed with this update. Ya never know...

Oct 17, 2014 5:43 AM in response to SimonStokes

I noticed that too. I doubt it means that everyone is finding solutions and want to support you in your knowledge that what we experience is real. People may not talk about the sun everyday, but it is there and remains a fact of life. I have accepted the fact that I suffer, have no real place to turn, and just have to do the best I can to live in this new electronic world where LED lights prevail. I am not a scientist or tech person, so I have no theories or solutions to offer. I depend on this thread, and this thread alone, to one day reveal a solution that will benefit the myriad of complex problems reported. Just yesterday, I simply walked past a Microsoft store in the mall and the light emitting from the store was sufficient to make me nauseous. I just ordered a new car that I love and panicked when I realized I had forgotten to ask if the display panel had LED lights. This condition is not terminal but certainly affects our daily lives, not just our ability to use Apple products. I do miss the ability to have the latest and greatest: I visit an Apple store occasionally to look at the new devices, hoping that I can try again one day. One day I'll be forced as my old 2009 Macbook with LCD lighting can only last so long. I'm using the last LCD-only external monitor that I've been able to find that does not give me searing headaches. I actually purchased a new Kindle touchscreen, after my reliable, comfortable e-ink technology version failed. The first night of using it I felt as if my eyes had turned to jelly. By night three just a little irritation and headache. I found another Kindle Keyboard online and will return to that. I am holding on to my iPhone 4S for dear life, after, without explanation, I could use it--at least long enough to send a text or make a call. I looked longingly at the 5, but won't budge until I have to. Each OS and IOS upgrade frightens me. I know that the software upgrades affect the hardware displays. I am on Mavericks and iOS 8 with the help of a local Apple-certified tech consultant whom I paid ($85/hr for 4 hours) to listen to my woes and who promised he could return me to the previous version if the upgrade hurt me. I have given up talking to anyone at the Apple Store. I watch this list, but I am not part of the solution, so I am quiet. I doubt Simon that any of us have had any wholesale relief or solutions, but as you know by your own experience. we keep trying. and sometimes we pay the price for our explorations. Never give up is all I can say. I certainly have not found an answer, but I do not give up hope. Sorry to go on so long.

Oct 17, 2014 7:56 AM in response to LovesDogs0415

I think the good thing is that companies and government agencies are aware of the issue.


I have seen an EU report mentioning the problem (see Artificial Lighting in EU site - aggravating effects of blue lights with the introduction of leds). Companies seem to try to build monitors that are more human friendly. I don't remember in the past companies to try to build flicker-free monitors or to try to block the blue light as much as i see now (i.e. from when leds were introduced). So I believe in the near future something will come out of this effort. Unfortunately it seems a very slow process.

Oct 18, 2014 2:55 PM in response to noelsmart

i'm a graphic designer and in 2012 i had a strange vertigo experience which lasted 3 weeks. it came back several times and found when i used any of my apple products the symptoms got worse. I used to take a lot of pain killers to get me through the day - before this i was on my apple iPhone, iPod, iMac, powerbook ALOT! when travelling i was watching movies on the handhelds and 9-6pm designing then i d get home carry on doing freelance or web browsing then again in bed browsing again before nights out. i was OBSESSED.

Unfortunately i can no longer do that and even writing this is causing me pain. I honestly believe that i ve damaged my neurologic capability if using computer screens. My illness then was loosely 'diagnosed' as migraine associated vertigo but 4 specialists couldn't understand why computers were the only thing affecting me? i can read books with the tiniest text and watch tv fine - i can't for the life of me figure it out? Is it the PWM? i get pain behind my eyes, vertigo and nausea. Its as if my body thinks its being poisoned by the computer?!!!


Apple needs to rethink their screen designs as with their blue light and PWM screens its damaging the 'computer' generation. DONT GET ME WRONG - I love Apple!!! I even bought their iphone6 not that i can use it often. I just want them to address our issues regarding this?

Oct 19, 2014 9:21 AM in response to SimonStokes

So far i haven't seen any differences with Yosemite. I love this new OS X version and maybe I'm using it for more hours/day. I think this is the best looking OS I've ever seen. I tried using the accessibility features to increase contrast on my wife's MBP Retina, but it didn't help, I still developed a headache and eye strain lasting 12 hours after a 2 hour use session.


I would love to know how other people have solved their problems with LED backlit displays. If solutions have been identified, it would be great if people posted them.


I'm going to see a neurophthalmologist to perform an in depth assessment of my visual system this week to see if there are any possible solutions.

Oct 20, 2014 5:56 PM in response to Scott98981

whats worrisome to me is it's just not the iphone, ipad, etc I've found the problem. I purchased the new Apple TV and made the mistake of updating the software and as soon as I downloaded the most recent update the headaches started. I wish I could figure out what the problem was because it's not just apple products I've had the headaches on. Have our eyes been damaged somewhat by these products that can't be seen by an eye doctor?

Oct 21, 2014 5:17 PM in response to tfouto

Believe me, everyone of you could use any monitor for as long as he wants with no real damage done. The pain is an illusion. Ignore it long enough and it will disappear or at least get less. Use your monitors as if you have no pain. Lose your concern that it is harmful. It's all on the subconscious level. Many of you have noticed that you can get used to certain LCD screens by going outside your comfort zone far enough to feel safe around monitors and light. Lose the fear by "burning bridges" and making the pain as strong as it can possibly get. You will notice that it stops getting stronger at a certain point. From there, the "curing" begins. I use quotes 'cause there is nothing to be cured. But I know... I know... Your're all too scared to try looking at these monitors long enough to get the worst possible pain you can ever get from them to realize that nothing bad really happens. This is coming from a guy who couldn't look at monitors for a couple of minutes who ended up looking at one of those screens with a completely white background for many hours and realized nothing happened to him (well, except for a lot of temporary imaginary pain). After I realized that, the pain started melting. After a few weeks or so, it melted into almost nothingness. My advice: if you've got no recognized health condition, look at it for 10 hours a day for two weeks. If it doesn't work and your life is destroyed, sue me! (if you can find me 🙂)

Oct 22, 2014 2:50 PM in response to Dovez

Never generalize Your case on others. Mayby your eyes have adapted or something other was changed in them. There is not absolute theory that explain everything. If my right eye after using only 3 days of LCD/LED monitor was red and I had blurred vision and pain which lasted one month and never fully recovered (one year passed) is an illusion that as well I can say all the life is an illusion so the our monitors are. there are no diseases, no death, no pain. Wa all live in matrix 😉

Oct 22, 2014 3:46 PM in response to Kxtr73

well, yeah, my pain lasted for many months too with avoiding monitors and fluorescent lighting almost completely. funnily, looking at them more was extremely more helpful than avoiding them. and yeah, my eyes used to get pretty red. everything became better the day and the weeks after i have realized they don't harm me. pretty hard to deny that psychosomatic illnesses do exist. but some are easier to recognize as such than others. and this one's a bit different, 'cause we do have an actual small benign irritant in the monitors which the subconscious overreacts to.

Oct 23, 2014 1:05 AM in response to Dovez

The conditioning you describe is actually used by pilots who get dizzy in the simulator. Pilots that feel dizzy in the simulator, (even if in the actual flight they are ok), get daily short doses of exposure to the simulator in order to get accustomed to it.


In my case with displays, i have actually gone through this process for many months without knowing it (and with no success of course). With iphone 4S i used to have extreme headache and dizziness for months without knowing what was causing it. I did not know at the beginning that the iphone was causing this (my doctors checked me for tumor in the brain or spinal damage) and i never got accustomed to it.

As soon as i found out about it, all doctors i have visited told me to stop the use immediately since my body gave strong signals that something was wrong.


So it seems that your organism for some reason has adjusted to it while for others this does not happen.

Oct 23, 2014 2:09 AM in response to Dovez

It's impossible to be psychological. Most of the people that develop this symptoms, are unware, that those led's screen can cause those things. They dont have any reason to think that it can cause any trouble. Neverthless we develop eye-strain and other symptoms. So it's real.


Maybe some people to some degree can adapt to it. Maybe the brain can adapt and dont feel the pain for some people. But you cant conclude that it works for everyone, neither that is not harmfull, for the eyes...

Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

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