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Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Jan 14, 2015 6:11 AM in response to Exandas

Your eye doctor may have mentioned this, but it takes time to get used to glasses. There's naturally a little bit of prism in glasses, which feels abnormal.


When I first started wearing glasses it took 2 weeks of wearing them 24/7 before my eyes settled. It's likely your dizziness is due to getting used to glasses.

Feb 17, 2015 4:00 PM in response to RMartin111

I realize this thread is super long and I hate to make it even longer, but I have read most of it.


I just switched from Windows 7 to a late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro. I love it except I can't look at it.


Like some of you, the eyestrain persists when I plug the MacBook into the SAME monitor as my Windows machine was plugged into. I've been losing my mind trying to figure it out. I've pursued at least 25 different interventions, including all the standard ones we know don't work (eye drops, f.lux, brightness, etc.) plus new glasses (which I don't need) and trying different monitors, etc. The Mac's own Retina display is also hard to look at. Confusingly, I do have an early 2013 iPad and an iPhone 4S that I've been using for years with not the slightest problem.


So this afternoon I'm back on my old Windows machine, and I feel fine. It took about two hours for the eyestrain to completely abate after a morning on the Mac. Same monitor. And I'm not psychologically biased against Mac... actually I've really come to like it.


I know it's not PWM, because the monitor in question is fine on Windows. I also put the Mac behind an electric fan and can see absolutely no flicker.


I think it COULD be temporal dithering, but I'm not too terribly hopeful because there's no way to turn it off. However, I have ordered a Thunderbolt to VGA adapter, which I've heard can cancel that out. I'll let you know how it goes. Also, I contacted Amulet Hotkey, which I read had managed to turn off temporal dithering on OSX, but they said they can't provide a general solution. I read that here: http://www.root6.com/blog/index.php/2014/01/amulet-they-fixed-os-xs-temporal-dit hering-issue/


But, to complicate this thread even further, have any of you considered that it may simply be the way OSX's Quartz Core renders the type? Windows ClearType is so super-crisp and easy for me to look at. When I see that beautiful but highly antialiased type on OSX, I just feel woozy. I've been using it for a month hoping I'd get used to it, but I just don't. (So why is the iPad fine for extended reading??)


I did play around with tuning the antialiasing via Terminal (see http://osxdaily.com/2014/10/27/change-font-smoothing-text-os-x-yosemite/) but I don't think I have really given the lowest setting (int 0) enough time to see if it helps. Also, I haven't really taken a few days off the thing to let myself equalize. These three things (VGA, AppleFontSmoothing via Terminal, and a novena I'm saying to Our Lady of Fatima) are really my last hope before this thing gets sold. I don't want to sell it.


I have considered the possibility that I spent way too much time on it while setting it up, and may have gotten myself some kind of spasm of accommodation within my eye. I didn't notice any strain for the first few days. But my vision is still crystal clear at all distances... just tired. Plus, I am pretty pessimistic that I'd be able to get actual medical treatment for such an obscure condition in less than $1000 worth of bouncing around doctors' offices, if at all.


But if it really is the type rendering, I'm really worried that Windows 8 may have changed something in their own type rendering algorithm, so I'm hoping that I can upgrade to it without issue. Ah well. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof.

Feb 27, 2015 2:38 PM in response to aprilafternoon

re: aprilafternoon

Feb 27, 2015 12:58 PM


As your other topic thread in Yosemite area no longer exists, I sought to check

to see where else you may have posted a similar topic. For whatever reason,

perhaps it was seen more as a rant; in any event, you could send the entirety

to Apple Feedback (note several choices) to tell them your thoughts directly:


Tell us how we’re doing. Select the appropriate feedback option

(we read everything, but can’t always respond):


This is part of what I was going to write in reply to your now missing thread.

And I have that window open in my browser whilst I reply in another...


As to the issue of LED backlight flicker and excessive (to some) brightness

causing (some to have) headache or eyestrain, there are brightness dimmer

software products out there... An additional software to dim display further.


Here's an example of a free product: http://www.charcoaldesign.co.uk/shades


Also, note that none of these products use AC power (alternating current) inside

the device; all of them reduce the electricity from grid to DC (direct current) by

use of built-in or power supply transformer. This is why they generally exceed

energy star requirements and use less power, with less heat. Some of your

points (now missing post) weren't carefully researched; in general others have.


Thanks for contributing an interesting thread, if you have a copy of that content

offline, you may submit to Apple Feedback per the above links...


Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Feb 28, 2015 12:30 AM in response to kvoth

Update on the use of Crizal Lenses. I managed to get a few devices to test for some days each. Below my experience with them using the Crizal lenses. When i say that a device is usable i mean that i can do tasks like checking emails, calendar, etc, not watching movies.


Devices:

iphone 5s: lenses don't really make to me any difference i.e. cant use it

iphone 6: the device is usable for me with the lenses

Lumia 920: lenses don't really make to me any difference i.e. cant use it

Galaxy Grande Duos: the device is usable for me with the lenses

Alcatel Pop C5: the device is usable for me with the lenses

Galaxy S4: the device is usable for me with the lenses

Mar 2, 2015 12:06 PM in response to Exandas

Hi all,


I have similar problems like all of you: Headaches (+ dizziness, light sensitivity etc.) after 1-5 minutes of looking at a high quality display which was made in the last 4,5 years (for example: IPhone 4s-IPhone6), which increases (intensity and duration) the longer I have looked at the display. In the last 4 years I went to two eye doctors but they couldn’t help me.

I also have Crizal Preventia (EU version: Essilor Prevencia) lenses for 8 months now, but they don't help me with this problem.


Two weeks ago I consulted a neurologist who thought – after he had done some testing - that maybe I could have ℹHeterophoriaℹ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterophoria) which many people have, but not everyone have problems with it. These problems could lead to the symptoms we discussed in this thread. Today I have been at the eye doctor who found out that I have a “stronger” version of Heterophoria. Now I have an appointment at our local university hospital who have specialists for a treatment of this condition but since it is really common especially for small children I’m looking forward to a positive outcome.


Hopefully this could be a solution for some of you and for me😉. It’s not hard to check for a doctor✅ if you tell him that Heterophoria could be a possibility. I guess, sometimes they don’t see the connection to the symptoms you have described 😐.


Here is also an interesting video on that issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1pVcQof5bM&feature=youtu.be

Mar 28, 2015 5:57 AM in response to Scott98981

Interesting.. I was looking at the 2015 panels on the 13.3" Air and one at the store seemed ok. However, I wanted the 8 GB configuration so I had to order online. It came with a Samsung screen LSN133BT01A02. I don't like this panel, it feels like it has subtle flickers and is bluish. I will have to run a test at the store and see if it is the same panel, or if it was just harder to notice in that environment. The reason is because as part of the panel lottery, there is another Samsung panel, and it is LTH133BT01A03, the manufacturer of both will probably show as the same, but the panel is not the same. The one in the 11" you said you liked, is a LTH not an LSN.

Apr 8, 2015 10:03 AM in response to Technarch

A slight digression - those of you who share my problem (temporal dithering and/or blue light and/or PWM sensitivity, can't use any Macbook since 2012 or any laptop period since 2013, full spectrum lighting bothers me, etc.)... what are you currently using for a smartphone?


I am faced with the decline and imminent demise of my iPhone 4s, which was the early version with the yellower screen that I can actually tolerate.


iPhone 5 is a total no-go for me, no amount of fiddling with Gunnars or blue blocking (I bought a blue blocking film) has made any difference, my eyes still hurt within minutes of using it.


iPhone 6 seems maybe not as bad as iPhone 5 but not great. So now I am faced with "what to get".


I use Verizon, and at the store the LG G series seemed like the least terrible for me to look at. The G Vista in particular is only 720p and it's a 6" phone, so that puts it at the lowest dpi of any modern phone which could be helpful.


The G2 and G Vista were "ok", but nothing seemed GREAT. The Samsungs were the flat-out worst, nearly instant eyestrain. The HTC's were somewhere in the middle. The older HTC's (8x, one) are better than the newer (one M8, one remix), but I'd have to hunt to get one now.


The Kyocera Brigadier is also an option.


I'm also wondering if the newer Gorilla Glass has anything to do with the eyestrain I/we experience?


I kind of need to get something in the next 2 weeks since I'm going to be traveling for several weeks and can't do it with an ancient dying iPhone.

Apr 13, 2015 10:15 AM in response to tfouto

tfouto, It helps for some phones, I think.


Specifically, I tried a blue-blocking film on the iPhone 5, and it did NOT help, or at least not completely.


I suspect that if you look at Exandas' list of phones where he had success with the Crizal lenses (which employ much the same technology as the clear-colored blue films) you'll note the same thing. iPhone 5 and Lumia 920 are unusable regardless of filtering, but other phones he had some success. I'm going to be trying out a couple phones in the very near future (this week and next) so I'll make sure to update this thread with my findings.


I'm looking into:


- Sony Experia Z3v (which uses the Luminos quantum dot display tech, ostensibly ought to be pretty well blue-filtered)

- LG G2/G Vista (which use plain IPS panels instead of whacky ultra-def panels - the G Vista is only 720p on a 6" phone and arguably the best on my eyes with no filtering)

- HTC One Remix (I know people on here have said it's nowhere near as eye-friendly as the HTC One X, but I can't get an HTC 8X any more which was the Verizon version of the phone, and a friend of mine has the AT&T HTC One and while not perfect it's usable for short periods for me)

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