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Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

There is one relatively serious con of the new LED backlit displays in the new MacBook Pros that seems to not get too much mention in the media. About a month ago I bought a new MacBook Pro to replace my standard white MacBook. One feature of the MacBook Pro that I was unaware of was the introduction of the LED backlit display to replace the CCFL backlight.

Once I started using my new laptop for long periods of time, I noticed severe eye strain and minor symptoms almost similar to motion sickness. After 20 or 30 minutes of use, I felt like I had been looking at the screen all day. Much longer and I would get headaches. If I used the old white MacBook (with its CCFL display), I had no eye troubles at all. Moreover, I could detect a distinct flicker on the MacBook Pro display when I moved my eyes across it - especially over high contract areas of the screen. White text on a black background was virtually impossible for me to read without feeling sick to my stomach because of all the flickering from moving my eyes over the text.

The strangest thing about all of this was that nobody else I showed the screen to could see these flickers I was seeing. I began to question my sanity until I did a little research. Discovering that the MacBook Pro introduced a new LED backlit display started to shed some light (so to speak) on what might be going on. I had long known that I could see LED flicker in things like car taillights and christmas lights that most of my friends could not see. I also knew that I could easily see the "rainbow effect" in DLP televisions that many other people don't see.

My research into LED technology turned up the fact that it is a bit of a technological challenge to dim an LED. Varying the voltage generally doesn't work as they are essentially designed to be either on or off with a fixed brightness. To work around this limitation, designers use a technique called pulse width modulation to mimic the appearance of lower intensity light coming out of the LED. I don't claim to fully understand the concept, but it essentially seems to involve very briefly turning off the LED several times over a given time span. The dimmer the LED needs to appear, the more time it spends in the off state.

Because this all happens so very quickly, the human brain does not interpret the flickers as flickers, rather as simply dimmer light. For most people that is. Some people (myself included) are much more sensitive to these flickers. From what I can tell, the concept is called the "flicker fusion threshold" and is the frequency at which sometime that is actually flickering is interpreted by the human brain as being continuously lit. While the vast majority of people have a threshold that doesn't allow them to see the flicker in dimmed LEDs, some people have a higher threshold that causes them to see the flickering in things like LED car tail lights and, unfortunately, LED backlit displays - leading to this terrible eye strain.

The solution? I now keep my screen turned up to full brightness to eliminate the need for the flicker-inducing pulse width modulation. The screen is very bright, but there are no more flickers and I love my MacBook Pro too much to exchange it for a plain MacBook with CCFL backlighting (which will also supposedly be switching to LED backlighting in 2009 anyway.) The staff at my local Apple store was of course more than helpful and was willing to let me exchange my glossy screen for matte even though I was beyond the 14 day return period. I knew that wasn't the problem though as my old MacBook was a glossy display. I've decided to stick with my full brightness solution. Sitting in a brightly-lit room tends to help alleviate how blinding the full brightness of the screen can be. In a dimly-lit room I guess I just wear sunglasses. Either way, the extreme brightness is worlds better than the sickening flicker I saw with a lower brightness setting

I would caution anybody considering buying a product with an LED backlit display to pay careful attention to make sure you don't have this same sensitivity. Turn the screen brightness down, find a high contract area of the screen, and quickly move your eyes back and forth over the screen. If you can detect the flicker, you may end up with this same problem.

I have no idea what percentage of the population has this sensitivity. I imagine we will hear more about it as more and more displays start using this technology. Hopefully the Apple engineers will come up with a way to eliminate this flicker some of us can see.

Russ Martin

15-inch MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on Aug 23, 2008 8:25 AM

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Apr 13, 2015 12:39 PM in response to Gurm42

Hi all, it's been a while since I've been on, but can report that I finally got the Crizal glasses, and they don't really help for me unfortunately.


Has anyone posted this yet? I'm pretty confident it will solve my problems:


http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2015/01/15/paperlike-13-3-e-ink-monitor-by-dasu ng-tech-videos/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldBbVd0kBGE

Apr 14, 2015 12:19 PM in response to Gurm42

Interestingly, I did a little research. The last phone anyone reported was FLAWLESS for them, other than "first generation iPhone 4s" (which I'm using now), is the HTC One X. This phone had a 720p display, 4.7", 312ppi, "super IPS LCD 2" screen... and was powered by NVidia GPU. Every newer phone is powered by a Qualcomm Adreno GPU. Now I flat-out prefer NVidia over Intel and ATI/AMD, but I am forced to conclude that this is likely a dead-end.


Why?


Well the older iPhones used PowerVR GPU's... and so does the 4s... and so does the 5 which I can't look at. In fact, the 5's GPU is an incremental bump over the 4s. (PowerVR SGX543MP2 to SGX543MP3). I don't think the chipset is a direct correlation, although some chipsets are KNOWN to be bad at least with some drivers (for example Intel's graphics with the drivers that make them evil...)


I have been theorizing for a while that some of the issues we are facing are blue-light, some are new screen tech (focal distance, polarization, etc.) and some are software/dithering/etc.


I love my Xbox360. I love my PS3. But both the Xbox One and the PS4 induce instant eyestrain. The Wii is wonderful, but the Wii-U makes my eyes hurt after a half hour of gaming... but video on it is fine. Now the Wii-U uses LITERALLY the same graphics chip as the XBox360 which I can watch all day long with no issues. Same TV, same output resolution. What gives? I can only assume that the Wii-U has dithering (temporal, spatio-temporal) or some other output filtering that isn't present on the XB360. Same with the Xbox One and PS4.


In order of pain:


PS4: Within 5 minutes my eyes are unhappy. Watched Terminator 3 on the PS4 and by the end I needed bed, badly.

Xbox One: Once I'm in a game, I'm ok for 20 minutes or so but will eventually get tweaked out on this system as well. Movies are similar to the PS4.

Wii-U: ******* around the interface is fine. Games induce eyestrain eventually, videos however are no problem.


My conclusion here is that the PS4 and XBOne must be dithering or some other evil output trick. The Wii-U likely just has some unfriendly anti-aliasing or something going on when actually in a game.


Phone results are similar:


Samsung S-Anything: OMG make it end. Stab me.

Nokia Lumia 9xx: Ouch. The 928 was the least awful, the 920 is just dreadful, and the 910 was pretty bad too.

iPhone 5: A couple minutes of puttering around the interface results in eye death, no matter what.

HTC One (m8): Ick. Ick ick ick.
iPhone 6: Not so terrible. I can use it but something about the way the glass is set up just screws with my eyes, also has anyone else noticed that the icons seem to "float" at the top of the glass? Definitely some kind of weird glass effect happening here, maybe from the polarization. Also the iPhone6 is noticeably better OUTDOORS. Still gave it up after an hour.

HTC One (m7): Acceptable. I could probably use Gunnars and get used to it. I might have to, honestly. I can read mail and compose texts, work Spotify all without too much strain. Games are a little tougher.

HTC One X (m7 precursor): Excellent. Managed to play with one that a friend had. Great phone.

Nokia Lumia 635 (AT&T): Surprisingly good. Low-res screen, this phone is designed to break Windows Mobile 8.1 into the low-end market, but surprisingly good. AT&T only, but makes me want to switch carriers.


Phones I'm about to test:


- Sony XPeria Z3v

- LG G Vista

- LG G2


I'd LOVE to try out the G2 Mini Tegra (625), it sounds amazing, but it's available in Latin countries only. 😟

Apr 15, 2015 3:42 AM in response to Gurm42

Have you tested the Nokia 635 for some time? I haven't tested it, but all Windows phones i got in my hands caused me eye strain and headache in a few minutes, so I haven't even bothered to look for windows devices for further testing (in the past i played for a while with 920 which was a disaster). It would be a pleasant surprise if this one is ok.

Apr 15, 2015 5:06 AM in response to Exandas

Exandas,


I also feel the same way about Nokia Windows Phones, the 635 was a HUGE surprise. I only played with it for like 10 minutes, but with any other Nokia, 2-5 minutes was enough to give me severe pain. So I make no guarantees about the 635.


I'm really on the fence. Yesterday after spending half the day fiddling with phones I had a MAJOR headache, I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that iOS 8.3 stays stable on the 4s, replace the batter, and keep it a little longer.

Apr 19, 2015 9:27 PM in response to RMartin111

Update:


The golden combo I found to work for me is
Dell ST2410 (150$ refurbished) + Gunnar glasses (30$ best buy deal, 70$ regular)


BTW I tried the LOC ABL monitor (200$), it's does lower a lot the strain, but still DELL CCFL monitors are better.

This issue is by no means related to prescription glasses, I took Gunnars prescription + Carl Zeiss lenses too (320$), I find the regular generic glasses work just great.


That setup works great for me for my daily job, but I still need to find solution when mobile.

Need to replace iPhone 5 with something (no clue what to look for!??)

Replace MPB with CCFL laptop. So far found that there are Lenovo ThinkPads still produced this way (not all models)

Eye strain from LED backlighting in MacBook Pro

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