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  • tight_eye Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    True and I don't know why. Maybe the triluminos display can handle high contrast better and more eye friendly. Of course everything speculation.

  • wimpytron Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i just bought the multi flip 13a and it is awesome! the 15 inch model was a bit too big and not practical to use as a tablet. and by taking the 13a model with only intel graphics i was sure that the screen and driver are exactly the same as the vaio pro 13.... finally a tablet and laptop with touchscreen that does not hurt my eyes (even powered on with current).

     

    thank you SONY                

     

    and now i will contact sony to ask if they can give a hint or tip for the root cause of this eye-issue. tbc

  • Exandas Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A collegue of  mine allowed me yesterday to work with her Sony Multi Flip 13A (Triluminus/Intel). I worked for around 4 hours in the evening doing my regular job.

    My experience is as follows:

    • on battery the device seems to be easy on the eyes, almost like using the old good ccfl laptops
    • plugged-in the device seemed to be a bit more aggressive to my eyes. A hour of work caused me a bit of a discomfort, BUT nonthing like the Macs or any other led display mentioned in the forum i.e. no burning eyes or headaches, just a mild discomfort that i can say went away after 20 mins of rest.

    All in all, i conclude based on my 4 hour experience that if someone needs a new device desperately and cannot wait for future developements, i would say that it is a device we could use, maybe with rests between use especially when plugged in.

     

    For Apple fans, I dont like Win 8 at all, i found it a bit confusing in the way it is structured. I wish Apple could construct a similar device. 

  • tfouto Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That would be great if Apple would use a technology similar to trillominus display used by Sony.

  • Jessiah1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok, I went to Best Buy and viewed a 14inch Trimulous display for a solid 5-10 minutes and I can say it was greatly better than most any other LED back lit device I have been exposed to. I believe with my anti-glare coating at home it may be tolerable for periods of time but I am not certain. I will be purchasing the 13A model soon and will trial it for the 15 day return period. The manager of the PC area was actually very supportive in helping me understand the display on the floor was the same as the 13A model and had no issue with a 100% refund within 15 days should I order the 13A.

     

    By comparison with what I have read and heard from people here and on my web site I believe I am one of the most sensitive to LED light so I can set the bar pretty well for how effective the display is.

     

    As for understanding why it is effective I cannot give a scientific reason however here is my theory based upon reading about the Trimulous technology:

     

    Using quantum dot technology the screen is "filtering" out harmful blue light spectrum, it essentially uses the opposite wavelength to cancel out the harmful blue light according to the computer tech I was speaking with at the store. I do not completely understand the latter part of this statement on wavelength however it makes sense that Sony has found certain blue wavelengths in the LED spectrum that are causing color rendering issues, in order to improve color accuracy they may have knowingly or unknowingly created a healthier display.

     

    This is my opinion and obviously not science based facts. I will say regardless of the reason, the display has a much better appearance to me and feels much cleaner than anything else out there I have tried! Very exciting, I will report back after some serious usage in my home, with and without anti-glare glasses, testing results coming soon!

     

     

    Jesse

  • Jessiah1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Also, for clarity, the one I used was plugged in. I am curious about dimming effect and plugged Vs. not plugged in so I will test all of these options.

  • tfouto Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Based on good reviews on Sony triluminos displays, i will check Sony Xperia Z2 when it's out.

     

    http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/phones/xperia-z2/features/#Display

     

    http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/02/28/xperia-z2-display-quality?utm_source=dlvr.it&u tm_medium=twitter

     

    I need a phone now. If i needed a latpop i would jump to Sony Vaio. At least until Apple replicates Sony tech...

    I cant look to my htc one for 5 minutes...

     

    I am glad, it seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel to us, LED's eye suffers... Jessiah1, yes you are one of the most accute suffers. I really hope you can handle this device fine.

  • StefanD13 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have no big hopes on the Z2, I have already tried the Z1 with kind of same result as with the plugged in Vaio Pro 13 (OK for some time).

    I still stick to my theory that the GPU driver plays some role as well and it seems that all Qualcomm phones/tablets are bad for my eyes. However the Z1 was better than any other Qualcomm devices I have tested, so thumb up for Sony Triluminos, too bad that Sony sold the Vaio .

    Somebody here said HTC OneX and Galaxy Tab 3 are OK. They both don't use Qualcomm. On the other side iPads/iPhones also not using Qualcomm as well and still not good...

  • tfouto Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    well the Z2 has white balance correction.

     

    Flux helps me alot, so if i put white balance to the red side i think it might help me and find Z2 usefull...

     

    I really dont think it's gpu drivers at least on my case. But i dont think the cause is the same for all of us.

    As i said Htc one, first display, fine if brightness not too high. Replaced by others and bad even if brightness to low...

     

    what i think intel drivers with power off do on Vaio is lower the brightntess yet a level acceptable to our eyes, or reduce the contrast...

     

    Neverthless if Z2 is better then other phones i guess i can look at it more time then other phones. So it's a no loose situation.

  • tfouto Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Also, Z2 has better/advanced display technology then Z1.

     

    Has a wider color gamut, and i think that triluminos tech is more advanced.

     

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-Z2-versus-Sony-Xperia-Z1Z1S-display-c omparison_id53142

     

    At least i hope so...

     

    About HTC Onex. I think it's because it's older technology. Maybe tight_eye is right and contrast has something to do it with. Contrast and blue-light combined.

     

    New displays are more and more brighter, contrasty, etc... That with blue-light might do the difference....

  • tight_eye Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I'm indeed pretty sure it's contrast. Brightness is not an issue as well as PWM (I tried shades with 100% brightness and it does not make any difference). First my eyes get not strained by an intensely flickering TV.

    Second my old Vaio Notebook exhibits Flickr recognizeable by my smartphone and it does not bother me.

     

    The only real difference seems to be the way whites and blacks are displayed.

     

    So for me there are just two factors:

     

    - contrast

    - light spectrum

     

    I feel it that it is contrast, it's just the whites are too white, they disturb our eyes from

    reading what is too black.

  • tfouto Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    to me just staring at a white screen is the worst. No need of black contrast.

     

    Pure white. And the more brighter the worst...

  • StefanD13 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @tight_eye: for some devices I can still measure PWM even though at 100%. My wife's Galaxy Note 2 is like this.

    Has your old Vaio maybe a CCFL backlight? Since I can tolerate much better CCFL PWM than LED/AMOLED PWM

  • tight_eye Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I know PWM can be measured at 100% brightness but it should dramatically decrease and at least I don't recognize any difference. I can confirm that whites are the worst for me, too. They are killing my eyes.

     

    To answer the question: No, my Vaio has just a cheap TN-Panel, I can look at it the whole day. As I already mentioned it has significant less contrast than modern devices, 170:1. Whites don't disturb, they look flat and not straining, just pleasing as reading a book.

  • tfouto Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    http://www.rle.mit.edu/excitonics/documents/QD-LED%20Review%20-%20Supran%20-%20M RS%20Bulletin%202013.pdf

     

    "

    For this reason,

    QDs have already begun to fi nd commercial applications as

    optically excited color enhancers: Sony’s 2013 line of Triluminos

    liquid crystal display (LCD) televisions ( Figure 1b , inset) use

    edge-mounted red and green QDs from QD Vision to optically

    down-convert some of the television’s blue LED backlight

    (absorbing some of the blue light and re-emitting it as red

    and green light)—optimizing its color balance so that it ful-

    fi lls >100% of the National Television System Committee

    (NTSC) television color gamut standard (the color space for

    broadcast video defi ned by the NTSC in 1953), compared with

    ∼ 70% for conventional LCD screens ( Figure 1b ). 9 , 10 The result

    is a television picture with color quality comparable to that of

    organic LED (OLED) screens, but achieved at the cost of an

    LCD display.

    "