Logitech QuickCam Vision Pro Webcam and ClearChat Headset/Mic Problems

I just purchased the MAC compatible “Logitech QuickCam Vision Pro” webcam. It is quite pricey at $129, because it is supposedly so "good," with features such as "Right Light 2," and its excellent optics.

Unfortunately, this webcam with mic device has HUGE compatibility problems right now with the Mac Pro. I am running the current/latest version of Mac OS X, Version 10.5.5, 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual Core Intel Xeon, 8 GB DRAM.

While you can see your self-image just fine in Photo Booth and you can take nice video clips, this is where it ends. For instance, when you take a shot of yourself in Photo Booth, it is horribly, horribly over-exposed if you are wearing a white shirt, and the image is therefore entirely unusable. It appears that the Logitech "Right Light 2" feature is NOT working with the Mac. I assume this is because when you install this Logitech (supposedly Mac compatible) webcam on your Mac, it comes sup as an "unrecognizable USB device." Thus, none of its automatic features appear to work. And, you can’t bring up any associated screens, like manual overrides, and the like, because once again, I assume the drivers are just not there (thus, it comes up as an “unknown USB device).

I wish there was some way I could manually load the necessary drivers!

Various other incompatibility issues also arise when you use the Logitech Vision Pro webcam with Skype, or other webcam services. It also comes up as an "unrecognizable USB device" (just like it does in “Photo Booth”), as opposed to a "Logitech QuickCam Vision Pro." Therefore, it has very, very limited functionality with the Mac.

IMHO, this is very disappointing. My entire point of buying this particular webcam/mic combo was the fact that it is advertised as being specifically compatible with Mac, and it emphasizes on the Logitech box that "No drivers are required." Heck, it's unusable with “Photo Booth,” unless you are not wearing a light colored shirt!

BTW, the same thing is true with Logitech's top-of-the-line ($99.99) headset/mic wireless combo, the "Logitech ClearChat Wireless." I also purchased this wireless (USB base station) Logitech headset/mic the same day I bought the webcam. It loads up improperly, just like their webcam, saying: "unrecognizable USB device" on the Mac Pro.

I guess it’s time to take the webcam and headset back to “Fry’s” and get my $230 (plus tax) refund back before my 15-day window runs out.

Does anyone have any additional info on this Logitech webcam, and/or the Logitech headset/mic wireless combo? I assume this problem will exist until the Mac OS X is uplifted to include the Logitech Vision Pro and ClearChat Wireless headset/mic devices.

Thanks, in advance, for any additional information, and/or recommendations, on this problem!

Message was edited by: JetRanger

| Mac PRO Dual Core Intel 2.66 GHz | 16GB ECC | 750 GB HDD | Dual 30 in Cinemas, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Oct 12, 2008 2:40 PM

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Oct 25, 2008 1:14 PM in response to KenK73

Mystery Solved!!!!

I finally got ahold of a very helpful and knowledgeable Tech Support person at Logitech who obviously was extremely well versed with their QuickCam VisionPro, and its use on the Mac. BTW, I am now on my third returned new QuickCam VisionPro camera, so I had already eliminated the aspect of a potentially defective VisionPro. As you can see below, the Tech Support fellow at Logitech gave me the sad reason why my (non-defective) QuickCam VsionPro is not up to my expectations.

He explained that the reason for the over exposure on Photo Booth (and various other problems with the VisionPro on a Mac) is that the Mac OS X does NOT have the necessary Logitech VisionPro specific drivers embedded into it to fully support VisionPro. The Mac OS only has the default Universal Video Drivers (UVD) for most any USB based video camera. This is why the System Preferences on the Mac do NOT show the VisionPro as even a Logitech device, let alone display its proper name (VisionPro). The Mac just says "Unknown USB Device."

The Tech Support guy at Logitech went on to explain that the basic/generic UVD USB drivers embedded in the Mac OS X allow the camera to perform its most basic functions, MINUS most of its custom/advanced features, such as "Right Light 2," and "Right Audio."

As a result, if you do things like wear a white T-shirt under at lest some lighting conditions when capturing a Photo Booth image, it may come out extremely over exposed, since "Right Light 2" is not supported in the Mac OS X. Although there is some degree of exposure control available with a VisionPro on a Mac, it is but a subset of what otherwise would be available if the custom Logitech drivers for VisionPro (beyond the default UVD for USB) were embedded into the Mac OS X.

For instance, I opened Photo Booth on my wife's iMac, which sits right next to my 30 inch Cinema screen on our shared Den desk, and I took my picture in Photo Booth with her iMac, using the built in iSight camera on her iMac's 24 inch screen. The image now came out perfectly exposed, whilst I wore the exact same clothing (T-shirt), and under the exact same lighting conditions.

BTW, I will say that the VisionPro speaker/mic are excellent for Skype. You can really crank up the audio, and yet there is no feedback, thus eliminating the need for the ClearChat headphone/mic. Of course, the Logitech Tech Support fellow confirmed that the same problems exist with the ClearChat headphone/mic set-up: The drivers in the Mac OS-X are universal, and accordingly the necessary custom drivers for the ClearChat to support all of its feature rich functionality do not work, not unlike the situation with the VisionPro.

So, for use with Skype, I'd say that VisionPro is great. But, IMHO, VisionPro is not very good for use with Photo Booth (at least under some lighting conditions), and of course, since it is not firewire based, it will not work with iMovie.

I would hang on to that iSight. Sure wish I had one. Better yet, I wish my 30 inch Cinema Pro had a built in iSight camera, like the iSight in my wife's iMac. Anyways, keep in mind that the VisionPro is $100 at Fry's ($99.99, plus tax), the ClearChat is $129.99 (wireless version) and although they "work" on a Mac, you will NOT get the support of their best advanced features, since there are no custom Logitech drivers for either product embedded in the Mac OS X, at least according to what I was told by Logitech.

Hope this helps! Keep in mind that this is IMHO, and as always, YMMV.

Oct 28, 2008 3:08 PM in response to jedlh

Yeah, the guy from Logitech was parcing his words VERY carefully:

"Since the QuickCam® Pro 9000 and the QuickCam® Vision Pro are both UVC compliant devices, manufacturers drivers are NOT required to operate either camera...no matter what (UVC compliant) OS they are being used on.

Installing manufacturers drivers may add or enhance certain features...but that's a different story altogether."

If you translate what he said, it is in complete agreement with what I found out and reported on in my last post, right after I spoke with the Logitech Tech Support person.

Yes, the camera will "OPERATE," just like I said, and just like the Logitech guy said. It will take pictures, etc. HOWEVER, notice his disclaimer in the next paragraph where he says: "Installing manufacturers drivers may add or enhance certain features...but that's a different story altogether."


Well, that was my entire point in my last post!! All of the cool (read that "expensive") features like "Right Light 2" and "Right Audio" do NOT WORK. These "features" and "enhancements" need to have specific drivers that are NOT INCLUDED in the basic UVD drivers found in OS-X.

The result is not insiginificant. Whilst the Logitech VisionPro camera will take pictures (e.g., in his words "operate") on a Mac in Photo Booth, they may be horribly over exposed (depending on if the subject is wearing a white T-shirt, lighting conditions, etc.) since "Right Light 2" is a specific Logitech exposure compensation feature that is NOT SUPPORTED with simple UVC drivers in OS-X. This feature, and other advanced Logitech features in this premium priced camera, require specific drivers that simply are not in the OS-X.

The rubb here is that you spend a lot of money on a high end camera like the QuickCam VisionPro, only to find that the expensive, cool advanced feaurtres don't work on a Mac! That's my point!

Oct 28, 2008 5:26 PM in response to JetRanger

I've read elsewhere that rightlight2 and auto-focus is supported in firmware. But that's about it, when you compare the feature-set of the VisionPro to say a sphere/orbit AF or pro 9000 (look at the comparison tool) that have tailored drivers for windows... There's still a lot missing because the rest isn't or can't be practically implemented in firmware.

It really ***** me and at the same time amuses me, particularly when they try to subtlety suggest it's somehow Apple's fault that they haven't developed drivers...

Oct 29, 2008 10:52 AM in response to JetRanger

you spend a lot of money on a high end camera like the QuickCam VisionPro, only >to find that the expensive, cool advanced feaurtres don't work on a Mac!


Just to point out that the QuickCam Vision Pro is not a high end camera by any stretch of the imagination. It's a very good webcam. If you want a good high end camera for your Mac with a lot of advanced features then look at firewire video cameras.

Oct 30, 2008 12:47 AM in response to JetRanger

Hi,

I found this thread when I was looking for a webcam for my mac, I checked the local Logitech page on the "QuickCam Vision Pro", and they seem to mention that the RightLigh2 is supported.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/webcam_communications/webcams/devices/4528&cl= roeu,en

Following is copy-paste;

"RightLight™ 2 technology: Adjusts intelligently to produce the best possible image, even in dim or backlighted situations."

Makes we wonder how they can include this in their spec pqage when they don't provide any drivers, and according to information I did read on this thread the RightLight2 needs drivers, as the camera now only uses the UVC.

Regards,
Sebastian

Oct 30, 2008 1:28 AM in response to Sebastian Sjoholm

There is a subset of features implemented in drivers on PC's that are implemented in firmware for this web cam. Right light 2 is among that subset of features.*

Whether or not the right light implementation in fw works well compared to what's in drivers on windows is something you'll have to check with devs on the logitech forum or people whom have both a mac and windows cam that does right light 2.

So far they've not provided any reasonable explanation as to why they can't be bothered developing drivers for OS X instead of using the native UVC ones.

-jed.

*auto focus is the only other I think, just have a look at the thread I linked to

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